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    Quote Originally Posted by Andour View Post
    Thanks a lot. Great job, as usual. I had a hunch what the map would look like. So far the mystery remains unsolved of why my closest IA samples are all packed east of the Alps.
    Ohh yours is the first I see that's similar to my grandfather's!!

    Kae = father || N/C Dutch + N/W French + N/W German + minor N Italian & E European
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    Some simple calculations, maps and plots I make for free, but for more complicated maps, plots and calculations I ask for a donation. A similarity map is $5, and an admix breakdown decomposition modern or ancient is $10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    For you and Dewsloth dad:



    I assume you would call mine mostly Isles Celtic too?

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    Quote Originally Posted by New_Englander View Post
    I assume you would call mine mostly Isles Celtic too?
    You look prevailing Scottish Celtic (+ north England Celtic) - Germanic (less Germanic, more Celtic)

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You look prevailing Scottish Celtic (+ north England Celtic) - Germanic (less Germanic, more Celtic)

    Thanks for the analysis ph2ter!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You look Gallic with slight English Celtic and Germanic.

    When I see Hampshire/Isle of Wight being the brightest in the Isles, it’s screams Gallic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    You are mostly English Celtic. Mitchell is more Germanic than you.
    I think it looks that way off first glance, but if you recall your earlier maps for Jonik, he pulls substantial Germanic ancestry, but it’s being watered down by his SW-like component. It’s all a delicate balance of Farmer ancestry which separates one NW population from the next.

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    N. Ireland and SW Scotland 26.2%, SC England 17.7%, Central England 17.3%, S Wales Border 8%, East Anglia 7.6%, NW Scotland 6%, Ireland 5.8%, NW England 5%, N Wales 3.2%, Aberdeenshire 1.8%, SE England 1.3%

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    Quote Originally Posted by Garimund View Post
    I think it looks that way off first glance, but if you recall your earlier maps for Jonik, he pulls substantial Germanic ancestry, but it’s being watered down by his SW-like component. It’s all a delicate balance of Farmer ancestry which separates one NW population from the next.

    D1B4037B-52C0-4A1D-A211-E423AAB0FAD9.jpeg
    Appreciate your input there Garimund, and what you say makes a lot of sense regarding my Germanic. The wonderful ver2 admix decomposition map by ph2ter was the most interesting in the series as far as I'm concerned, and I was hoping a few members of similar southern British origin would order one for comparison. Please don't go to any trouble ph2ter but what do typical southern English IA Celts from my own ver3 hotspots show for ver2 Iberian in your experience?
    Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales, with several neighbouring regions and countries in the last few centuries
    Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 711AD YFull, 880AD FTDNA
    mtDNA: Llanvihangel Pont-y-moile, 1825
    Mother's Y: Llanvair Discoed, 1770
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    Quote Originally Posted by JonikW View Post
    Appreciate your input there Garimund, and what you say makes a lot of sense regarding my Germanic. The wonderful ver2 admix decomposition map by ph2ter was the most interesting in the series as far as I'm concerned, and I was hoping a few members of similar southern British origin would order one for comparison. Please don't go to any trouble ph2ter but what do typical southern English IA Celts from my own ver3 hotspots show for ver2 Iberian in your experience?
    I can't do what you want. English Celtic gets English Celtic in a breakdown.
    I can only compare its similarity map with your similarity map in the absolute scale (dmax 0.01-0.05):
    The maps are similar, only your distance to ancient averages is bigger so your map is more pale:


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ph2ter View Post
    I can't do what you want. English Celtic gets English Celtic in a breakdown.
    I can only compare its similarity map with your similarity map in the absolute scale (dmax 0.01-0.05):
    The maps are similar, only your distance to ancient averages is bigger so your map is more pale:


    Got you. I’d thought you might be able to just pull out the Iberian, but I see the problem and really appreciate what you’ve just done with those latest maps. You're a star, ph2ter. I guess your standard setting for ver3 gave the best overall picture of my Celtic/Germanic spread, while 0.05 was useful for detail within my Celtic England side. I've still got my fingers crossed that other Brits will want a ver2 admix decomposition map at some point. It’s not very often that I’m surprised about something in these autosomal comparisons, and an Iberian-like signal at that level was one of those times.
    Recent tree: mainly West Country England and Southeast Wales, with several neighbouring regions and countries in the last few centuries
    Y line: Peak District, c.1300. Swedish IA/VA matches; last = 711AD YFull, 880AD FTDNA
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