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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    The Mamluks were Kipchak Turks while others were from the Caucus tho.Do you get Circassian and Turkic ancestry to the exclusion of your mother? For example my mother and I seem to have very minor Turkish ancestry to the exclusion of my father/other Somali samples and even tried breaking it down between Anatolian Greek & Turkic to see if it's real.

    Code:
    Target: Drobbah_Mother_scaled
    Distance: 2.1274% / 0.02127420
    92.4	Cushitic
    6.2	Mahra
    1.4	Turkish_Northwest
    
    Target: Drobbah_FTDNA_scaled
    Distance: 1.6847% / 0.01684746
    93.0	Cushitic
    5.2	Mahra
    1.8	Turkish_Northwest
    Average Somali (from NE Somalia) and my father
    Code:
    Target: Drobbah_Father
    Distance: 1.7460% / 0.01745976
    97.4	Cushitic
    2.6	Mahra
    
    Target: Somali_Somalia
    Distance: 1.4616% / 0.01461624
    91.4	Cushitic
    8.6	Mahra
    Broke the Turkish down between Anatolian Greek and Medieval Turkic:
    Code:
    Target: Drobbah_FTDNA_scaled
    Distance: 1.6770% / 0.01676956
    93.0	Cushitic
    5.6	Mahra
    1.0	Turkic
    0.4	Greek_Cappadocia
    
    Target: Drobbah_Mother_scaled
    Distance: 2.1226% / 0.02122616
    92.2	Cushitic
    6.6	Mahra
    0.6	Greek_Cappadocia
    0.6	Turkic
    Yes, my mother doesn't score Circassian/Turkish



    Target: Hurricane
    Distance: 1.2106% / 0.01210565
    36.0 Fulani
    19.6 Mada
    15.8 Bulala
    8.0 Saudi
    5.8 Sena
    5.4 Tunisian_Rbaya
    3.4 Tsez_A
    3.0 Cameroon_Aghem
    0.8 Jatt_Pathak
    0.8 Vellalar
    0.6 Koinanbe
    0.4 Balochi_A
    0.4 Mlabri

    Target: Hurricane_dad
    Distance: 1.1662% / 0.01166196
    44.8 Fulani
    12.2 Yemenite_Ma'rib
    9.6 Palestinian_Beit_Sahour
    8.0 Bulala
    6.0 Mada
    5.8 Dinka
    5.6 Luhya_Kenya
    3.4 Saudi
    1.8 Rendille
    1.4 Georgian_Javakheti
    0.8 Papuan
    0.6 Georgian_Ratcha


    Target: Hurricane_dad
    Distance: 2.1707% / 0.02170674 | ADC: 0.25x RC
    63.4 Berber_Algeria
    17.2 Kikuyu
    11.4 Rendille
    7.0 Georgian_Javakheti
    1.0 Madagascar_Mikea

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aben Aboo View Post
    A lot of Nafricans have them, i'm mix but i have also these results with G25 and i think it's generally related to some east med/west asian ancestry in North Africans people, not necessarly from 'Uthmaniyyoun.
    I played around with several G25 calculators and from what i've seen, most Nafricans dont get Circassian/Georgian.

    Quote Originally Posted by Itrane2000 View Post
    off course it is.
    Can you share your G25 ?
    Hurricane,-0.386999,0.083273,-0.010182,-0.023579,0.005232,-0.009761,-0.032901,0.024461,0.019839,-0.007654,0.002598,-0.005245,0.010406,-0.007569,0.011943,-0.003315,0.005215,-0.008108,-0.011061,0.006128,-0.009234,-0.005688,0.01023,0.003374,0.002994
    Hurricane_dad,-0.308461,0.098506,-0.015462,-0.044251,0.004616,-0.022032,-0.029376,0.020307,0.028633,-0.006196,0.003573,-0.005395,0.011893,-0.00812,0.0076,-0.006497,0.001956,-0.014442,-0.013198,0.002501,-0.003743,-0.00371,0.007272,0.00735,0.003832


    Hurricane_unscaled,-0.034,0.0082,-0.0027,-0.0073,0.0017,-0.0035,-0.014,0.0106,0.0097,-0.0042,0.0016,-0.0035,0.007,-0.0055,0.0088,-0.0025,0.004,-0.0064,-0.0088,0.0049,-0.0074,-0.0046,0.0083,0.0028,0.0025
    Hurricane_dad_unscaled,-0.0271,0.0097,-0.0041,-0.0137,0.0015,-0.0079,-0.0125,0.0088,0.014,-0.0034,0.0022,-0.0036,0.008,-0.0059,0.0056,-0.0049,0.0015,-0.0114,-0.0105,0.002,-0.003,-0.003,0.0059,0.0061,0.0032

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    Both your dad and yourself prefer Circassians.I did a little bit of research and it does seem Circassians were once a Military Caste in Ottoman Tunisia.

    Target: Hurricane_dad
    Distance: 1.8072% / 0.01807203
    38.0 Hausa_Nigeria
    17.4 Tunisian_Arab_Douz
    16.0 Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    14.6 Zaghawa_Sudan
    9.8 Mahra
    4.2 Circassian

    Target: Hurricane
    Distance: 1.9289% / 0.01928928
    52.2 Hausa_Nigeria
    15.0 Tunisian_Arab_Douz
    13.6 Zaghawa_Sudan
    11.2 Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    5.4 Circassian
    2.6 Mahra

    A Circassian-Jordanian in the same model:
    Target: Jordanian_(Circassian-Mixed_Profile)
    Distance: 3.3671% / 0.03367137
    93.8 Circassian
    5.6 Palestinian_Muslim
    0.6 Hausa_Nigeria
    Code:
    Target: Drobbah
    Distance: 1.3922% / 0.01392203
    53.4	KEN_Pastoral_N
    34.6	KEN_Pastoral_IA
    7.4	Saudi
    4.6	Taforalt
    
    
    Target: Drobbah_FTDNA_scaled
    Distance: 2.8058% / 0.02805777
    94.8	South/Central_Somali
    5.2	Saudi

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    ^ Can you run it again with one of my simulated coordinates (Livingdna/K36) please?



    Exploreyourdna,-0.384589,0.086503,-0.001262,-0.024551,0.003676,-0.013670,-0.029972,0.024989,0.024296,-0.009430,0.000464,0.001160,0.009063,-0.001333,0.007240,-0.004863,0.002712,-0.014574,-0.000978,0.000201,0.000690,-0.004476,0.002649,-0.000000,0.001811

    Or

    Allelocator,-0.38458880412700003,0.086503480089,-0.0012616991170000189,-0.024551163200999704,0.0036756786080000027,-0.013669794212900006,-0.029972305099000035,0.02498884684300018,0.0242960 90032000173,-0.009430192745999821,0.00046393134966800104,0.0011 59872614999946,0.009062920421,-0.001333270545999632,0.007240445169999887,-0.004863099017999972,0.002712004788999911,-0.014574406952000019,-0.0009777452610000015,0.00020121909880000538,0.000 6898847510001804,-0.004476013986999927,0.002648858135000015,-5.153099996713095e-8,0.0018106754429995098

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    Quote Originally Posted by drobbah View Post
    Both your dad and yourself prefer Circassians.I did a little bit of research and it does seem Circassians were once a Military Caste in Ottoman Tunisia.

    Target: Hurricane_dad
    Distance: 1.8072% / 0.01807203
    38.0 Hausa_Nigeria
    17.4 Tunisian_Arab_Douz
    16.0 Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    14.6 Zaghawa_Sudan
    9.8 Mahra
    4.2 Circassian

    Target: Hurricane
    Distance: 1.9289% / 0.01928928
    52.2 Hausa_Nigeria
    15.0 Tunisian_Arab_Douz
    13.6 Zaghawa_Sudan
    11.2 Berber_Tunisia_East_Zenati_Chenini
    5.4 Circassian
    2.6 Mahra

    A Circassian-Jordanian in the same model:
    Target: Jordanian_(Circassian-Mixed_Profile)
    Distance: 3.3671% / 0.03367137
    93.8 Circassian
    5.6 Palestinian_Muslim
    0.6 Hausa_Nigeria
    Any calculator you use ?
    38.4 Mesolithic_North_Africa
    37.4 Anatolia_Barcin_Neolithic
    9.6 Levant_Natufian
    5.8 Caucasian_Neolithic
    4.6 Basal_Central/West_African
    2.2 West-Pontic_Steppe__Eneolithic_Sredny-Stog_Culture
    1.2 Wales_Meso
    0.4 CHN_Mid-Yellow-River_Mid-Neolithic_YangShao_Culture
    0.4 PER_LaGalgada_4100BP

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    Hello!

    Could you run the simulated G25 coords of my dad based on a phased 47% raw data from my own DNA ?

    He is Tunisian with 25% norman DNA and apparently we are descended from Turkish / Ottoman families (Y DNA is E-V13) (also found the family name Ben khelil and in our cities there were some old names Khelil mamluk)

    here it is : Phased_MedafsDad_simulated_g25_scaled,0.057940,0.1 32904,0.011553,-0.029624,0.022108,-0.011328,-0.011677,-0.004048,0.028703,0.021903,-0.000179,0.003226,-0.003196,-0.010934,0.012649,-0.001051,-0.000912,-0.005709,-0.009489,-0.000594,0.001924,-0.008983,0.003088,-0.001302,0.004365

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    Target: Phased_MedafsDad_simulated_g25_scaled
    Distance: 0.7532% / 0.00753228
    34.2 Southern_Europe
    27.2 Berber
    18.8 Anatolian_Turk
    8.2 French_Brittany
    7.8 Levant
    2.8 Sub-Saharan_African
    1.0 Saudi
    Target: abceff
    Distance: 2.7952% / 0.02795248
    34.6 Anatolia_N
    18.0 Taforalt
    17.8 Levant_Natufian_EpiP
    11.0 SSA
    6.8 Yamnaya
    5.8 Iran_N
    4.8 AZE_Caucasus_lowlands_LN
    1.2 Baltic_HG

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medaf View Post
    Hello!

    Could you run the simulated G25 coords of my dad based on a phased 47% raw data from my own DNA ?

    He is Tunisian with 25% norman DNA and apparently we are descended from Turkish / Ottoman families (Y DNA is E-V13) (also found the family name Ben khelil and in our cities there were some old names Khelil mamluk)

    here it is : Phased_MedafsDad_simulated_g25_scaled,0.057940,0.1 32904,0.011553,-0.029624,0.022108,-0.011328,-0.011677,-0.004048,0.028703,0.021903,-0.000179,0.003226,-0.003196,-0.010934,0.012649,-0.001051,-0.000912,-0.005709,-0.009489,-0.000594,0.001924,-0.008983,0.003088,-0.001302,0.004365
    This is from Hurricane's recent post... interesting results for the K44
    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....l=1#post899159


    Target: Phased_MedafsDad_simulated_g25_scaled
    Distance: 0.2834% / 0.00283393
    35.2 Basque
    20.8 Cyprus_East_Mediterranean
    19.0 Berber_North_Africa
    6.4 NW_Europe
    6.0 Pontic_West_Caucasus
    4.8 Spanish_Portuguese
    2.2 Red_Sea_Yemen_Egypt
    1.4 Horn_of_Africa
    1.2 Mesoamerican
    0.8 West_African
    0.6 Aka_Hadza_Mbuti
    0.6 Greenland
    0.4 Kalash_Balochi
    0.4 Nilotic
    0.2 Koryak_Chukchi_Beringian

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