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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    Hi, I've already asked this, but maybe you didn't seem my question. With "Germanic ancestry", I meant are they (partially) descended from the proto-Germanic speakers?
    If I understand correctly you are asking me to quantify the genetic influx (in the various groups speaking a Germanic language) whose ultimate origin would be Sweden from the pre-Roman Iron Age. I'm far unable to do that. First of all, I don't have any Swedish genomes from the right period (I don't remember if there are any in the big Allentoft study, anyway we don't have the genotypes from this study yet). (And once again this question, as interesting as it is, is incidental to a thesis which is essentially linguistic). So with the current state of available data, we can only speculate. But I agree that in this speculation I-M253 plays a primary role.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    26-126CE Auxiliary Horse Grave:
    Target: AUT_Klosterneuburg:R10657 DF19
    Distance: 2.6272% / 0.02627224
    54.0 Scandinavian_IA
    35.2 CNE
    10.8 British_IA

    Target: AUT_Klosterneuburg:R10659 U106 Neonate
    Distance: 2.3635% / 0.02363527
    52.2 FRA_North_IA
    33.0 CNE
    8.0 British_IA
    6.8 Scandinavian_IA

    Target: AUT_Klosterneuburg:R10656 L21>DF13
    Distance: 2.2761% / 0.02276142
    76.6 British_IA
    23.4 Scandinavian_IA


    ~250CE Auxiliaries (U152 and DF19) Horse Grave:
    Target: England_Roman:6DT22
    Distance: 1.8544% / 0.01854405
    49.6 British_IA
    32.2 FRA_North_IA
    14.4 Scandinavian_IA
    3.8 CNE

    Target: England_Roman:6DT23Scaled
    Distance: 2.9218% / 0.02921772
    51.8 British_IA
    28.4 Scandinavian_IA
    19.8 FRA_North_IA

    Warini (terrible quality sample, slight chance he is DF19):
    Target: DEU_Haven_200-400AD:HVN001
    Distance: 2.0578% / 0.02057811
    66.0 CNE
    24.2 Scandinavian_IA
    9.8 FRA_North_IA

    Lower Saxony Horse Grave (DF19s) 530CE:
    Target: Germany_Lower_Saxony_Hiddestorf:HID001
    Distance: 1.8351% / 0.01835083
    56.8 Scandinavian_IA
    34.6 CNE
    8.6 British_IA

    Target: Germany_Lower_Saxony_Hiddestorf:HID002
    Distance: 3.0152% / 0.03015224
    77.2 Scandinavian_IA
    14.6 CNE
    8.2 FRA_North_IA

    Target: Germany_Lower_Saxony_Hiddestorf:HID002b (2 and 2b samples are petrous vs tooth, I forget which is which)
    Distance: 2.5926% / 0.02592578
    55.4 CNE
    44.6 Scandinavian_IA

    U106 Vandal:
    Target: SVK_Poprad_MAA119
    Distance: 2.6391% / 0.02639078
    81.6 CNE
    18.4 FRA_North_IA

    Female Ostrogoth:
    Target: DEU_MA_ACD_Ostrogothic:STR_220
    Distance: 2.9496% / 0.02949551
    75.0 CNE
    25.0 FRA_North_IA

    Unknown culture(s) Czech IA burials:
    Target: CZE_IA_Hallstatt_low_res:I17607 DF19 800-500BCE
    Distance: 5.1511% / 0.05151094
    89.0 Scandinavian_IA
    11.0 British_IA

    Target: CZE_IA_La_Tene_oFennoscandian:I20509
    Distance: 4.6594% / 0.04659400
    100.0 Scandinavian_IA
    Denmark iron age

    VK532
    yDNA I-S26361
    mtDNA U2e2a1a

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK532
    0.02367197 Danish
    0.02376133 Norwegian
    0.02533238 Swedish
    0.02541563 Icelandic
    0.02940362 Shetlandic
    0.03027347 Dutch
    0.03072952 Orcadian
    0.03094545 Scottish
    0.03156961 German_Hamburg
    0.03181784 Irish
    0.03423271 English
    0.03461741 Welsh
    0.03581355 English_Cornwall
    0.03852114 Afrikaner
    0.03973226 German
    0.04226947 French_Brittany
    0.04256702 German_East
    0.04306454 German_Erlangen
    0.04425006 Czech
    0.04699322 BelgianA
    0.05152732 Austrian
    0.05320490 BelgianB
    0.05337433 Hungarian
    0.05405202 Slovakian
    0.05439692 French_Seine-Maritime

    VK521
    yDNA I-A9988*
    mtDNA H16b

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK521
    0.02543865 Icelandic
    0.02712082 Swedish
    0.02724993 Norwegian
    0.02862267 Danish
    0.03208330 Orcadian
    0.03387150 Scottish
    0.03549680 German_Hamburg
    0.03594876 Dutch
    0.03607656 English
    0.03613283 Irish
    0.03657199 Shetlandic
    0.03716272 English_Cornwall
    0.03756169 Welsh
    0.04289014 German_East
    0.04343789 German
    0.04501901 French_Brittany
    0.04508819 Afrikaner
    0.04750443 German_Erlangen
    0.04766663 Czech
    0.04827870 BelgianA
    0.05452017 Polish_Kashubian
    0.05604367 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.05622331 Finnish_Southwest
    0.05670631 Austrian
    0.05717241 BelgianB

    VK582
    yDNA I-L801
    mtDNA H6a1b3
    Distance to: DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582
    0.04028594 Norwegian
    0.04188345 Icelandic
    0.04276501 Danish
    0.04394381 Swedish
    0.04658044 Irish
    0.04703809 Shetlandic
    0.04803017 Scottish
    0.04821226 English
    0.04868727 Dutch
    0.04924878 Welsh
    0.04953550 Orcadian
    0.05008315 English_Cornwall
    0.05318730 French_Brittany
    0.05410074 German_Hamburg
    0.05745108 German
    0.05820211 Afrikaner
    0.06242038 German_Erlangen
    0.06308595 BelgianA
    0.06478490 BelgianB
    0.06504550 German_East
    0.06509068 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06634504 Czech
    0.06824163 French_Nord
    0.06874282 Austrian
    0.06910385 BelgianC

    can you tell me if the British_IA trace was detected in the fossils from Denmark iron age?

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugr View Post
    Denmark iron age

    VK532
    yDNA I-S26361
    mtDNA U2e2a1a

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK532
    0.02367197 Danish
    0.02376133 Norwegian
    0.02533238 Swedish
    0.02541563 Icelandic
    0.02940362 Shetlandic
    0.03027347 Dutch
    0.03072952 Orcadian
    0.03094545 Scottish
    0.03156961 German_Hamburg
    0.03181784 Irish
    0.03423271 English
    0.03461741 Welsh
    0.03581355 English_Cornwall
    0.03852114 Afrikaner
    0.03973226 German
    0.04226947 French_Brittany
    0.04256702 German_East
    0.04306454 German_Erlangen
    0.04425006 Czech
    0.04699322 BelgianA
    0.05152732 Austrian
    0.05320490 BelgianB
    0.05337433 Hungarian
    0.05405202 Slovakian
    0.05439692 French_Seine-Maritime

    VK521
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    mtDNA H16b

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK521
    0.02543865 Icelandic
    0.02712082 Swedish
    0.02724993 Norwegian
    0.02862267 Danish
    0.03208330 Orcadian
    0.03387150 Scottish
    0.03549680 German_Hamburg
    0.03594876 Dutch
    0.03607656 English
    0.03613283 Irish
    0.03657199 Shetlandic
    0.03716272 English_Cornwall
    0.03756169 Welsh
    0.04289014 German_East
    0.04343789 German
    0.04501901 French_Brittany
    0.04508819 Afrikaner
    0.04750443 German_Erlangen
    0.04766663 Czech
    0.04827870 BelgianA
    0.05452017 Polish_Kashubian
    0.05604367 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.05622331 Finnish_Southwest
    0.05670631 Austrian
    0.05717241 BelgianB

    VK582
    yDNA I-L801
    mtDNA H6a1b3
    Distance to: DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582
    0.04028594 Norwegian
    0.04188345 Icelandic
    0.04276501 Danish
    0.04394381 Swedish
    0.04658044 Irish
    0.04703809 Shetlandic
    0.04803017 Scottish
    0.04821226 English
    0.04868727 Dutch
    0.04924878 Welsh
    0.04953550 Orcadian
    0.05008315 English_Cornwall
    0.05318730 French_Brittany
    0.05410074 German_Hamburg
    0.05745108 German
    0.05820211 Afrikaner
    0.06242038 German_Erlangen
    0.06308595 BelgianA
    0.06478490 BelgianB
    0.06504550 German_East
    0.06509068 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06634504 Czech
    0.06824163 French_Nord
    0.06874282 Austrian
    0.06910385 BelgianC

    can you tell me if the British_IA trace was detected in the fossils from Denmark iron age?
    In good old times Angles figured this out:

    right pops:
    Villabruna
    Vestonice16
    Ust_Ishim_published.DG
    Kostenki14.SG
    GoyetQ116-1_udg_published
    MA1.SG
    GanjDareh
    BOT14.SG
    Kostenki
    S_Mbuti-3.DG
    A_Papuan-16.DG
    A_Han-4.DG
    Andaman.SG

    left pops:
    finndad_NL
    Denmark_IA
    Ansarve_Megalithic (I wanted to have a "farmer" source. The choice of Ansarve can be disputed, but anyway, according to the results the question has no real importance ...)

    best coefficients: 1.025 -0.025
    totmean: 1.025 -0.025
    boot mean: 1.027 -0.027
    std. errors: 0.100 0.100


    fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
    00 0 11 5.192 0.921515 1.025 -0.025 infeasible
    01 1 12 5.260 0.948719 1.000 0.000
    10 1 12 113.107 1.45072e-18 0.000 1.000
    best pat: 00 0.921515 - -
    best pat: 01 0.948719 chi(nested): 0.068 p-value for nested model: 0.793938


    left pops:
    finnmum_NL
    Denmark_IA
    Ansarve_Megalithic


    best coefficients: 0.984 0.016
    totmean: 0.984 0.016
    boot mean: 0.986 0.014
    std. errors: 0.097 0.097


    fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
    00 0 11 6.040 0.870674 0.984 0.016
    01 1 12 6.066 0.912698 1.000 0.000
    10 1 12 122.121 2.33258e-20 0.000 1.000
    best pat: 00 0.870674 - -
    best pat: 01 0.912698 chi(nested): 0.026 p-value for nested model: 0.871204

    The p-values of the nested models are astronomic. According to this analysis Finn's parents are "pure" Danish from the Iron Age. Btw Denmark_IA is for the three individuals from Margaryan. Of course I used imputed genomes for Finn's parents (947035 SNPs). For the experts, I've taken the risk to keep the transitions.
    I don't know if Scandic IA samples would have the same results.

    In C vs G format, with Frisian Waldpyk, Elske and the (Friso-) Saxon Finns, with Denmark IA, CNE, Hiddestorf (Saxons ME) Nordic IA, Germ. Medieval (Niederstotzingen migration time).


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    Quote Originally Posted by draugr View Post
    Denmark iron age

    VK532
    yDNA I-S26361
    mtDNA U2e2a1a
     

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK532
    0.02367197 Danish
    0.02376133 Norwegian
    0.02533238 Swedish
    0.02541563 Icelandic
    0.02940362 Shetlandic
    0.03027347 Dutch
    0.03072952 Orcadian
    0.03094545 Scottish
    0.03156961 German_Hamburg
    0.03181784 Irish
    0.03423271 English
    0.03461741 Welsh
    0.03581355 English_Cornwall
    0.03852114 Afrikaner
    0.03973226 German
    0.04226947 French_Brittany
    0.04256702 German_East
    0.04306454 German_Erlangen
    0.04425006 Czech
    0.04699322 BelgianA
    0.05152732 Austrian
    0.05320490 BelgianB
    0.05337433 Hungarian
    0.05405202 Slovakian
    0.05439692 French_Seine-Maritime

    VK521
    yDNA I-A9988*
    mtDNA H16b

    Distance to: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK521
    0.02543865 Icelandic
    0.02712082 Swedish
    0.02724993 Norwegian
    0.02862267 Danish
    0.03208330 Orcadian
    0.03387150 Scottish
    0.03549680 German_Hamburg
    0.03594876 Dutch
    0.03607656 English
    0.03613283 Irish
    0.03657199 Shetlandic
    0.03716272 English_Cornwall
    0.03756169 Welsh
    0.04289014 German_East
    0.04343789 German
    0.04501901 French_Brittany
    0.04508819 Afrikaner
    0.04750443 German_Erlangen
    0.04766663 Czech
    0.04827870 BelgianA
    0.05452017 Polish_Kashubian
    0.05604367 French_Seine-Maritime
    0.05622331 Finnish_Southwest
    0.05670631 Austrian
    0.05717241 BelgianB

    VK582
    yDNA I-L801
    mtDNA H6a1b3
    Distance to: DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582
    0.04028594 Norwegian
    0.04188345 Icelandic
    0.04276501 Danish
    0.04394381 Swedish
    0.04658044 Irish
    0.04703809 Shetlandic
    0.04803017 Scottish
    0.04821226 English
    0.04868727 Dutch
    0.04924878 Welsh
    0.04953550 Orcadian
    0.05008315 English_Cornwall
    0.05318730 French_Brittany
    0.05410074 German_Hamburg
    0.05745108 German
    0.05820211 Afrikaner
    0.06242038 German_Erlangen
    0.06308595 BelgianA
    0.06478490 BelgianB
    0.06504550 German_East
    0.06509068 French_Pas-de-Calais
    0.06634504 Czech
    0.06824163 French_Nord
    0.06874282 Austrian
    0.06910385 BelgianC

    can you tell me if the British_IA trace was detected in the fossils from Denmark iron age?
    Using same sources as before (we might be comparing individuals with their own average):

    Target: DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582
    Distance: 4.2678% / 0.04267818
    49.0 Scandinavian_IA
    44.6 British_IA
    6.4 CNE

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK213
    Distance: 4.1606% / 0.04160593
    50.4 Scandinavian_IA
    49.6 British_IA

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK521
    Distance: 1.8741% / 0.01874073
    96.4 Scandinavian_IA
    3.6 British_IA

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK532
    Distance: 1.6446% / 0.01644559
    64.6 Scandinavian_IA
    35.4 CNE

    EDIT -- Meanwhile the other IA Scandinavians:
     
    Target: SWE_Oland_IA:VK579
    Distance: 3.3154% / 0.03315423
    100.0 Scandinavian_IA

    Target: SWE_Oland_IA:VK522
    Distance: 2.1926% / 0.02192613
    73.8 Scandinavian_IA
    26.2 CNE

    Target: SWE_IA:RISE174
    Distance: 2.1721% / 0.02172137
    86.2 Scandinavian_IA
    13.8 FRA_North_IA

    Target: NOR_South_IA:VK391
    Distance: 3.4366% / 0.03436599
    94.4 Scandinavian_IA
    5.6 CNE

    Target: NOR_South_IA:VK390
    Distance: 2.2406% / 0.02240604
    97.4 Scandinavian_IA
    2.6 British_IA

    Target: NOR_North_IA:VK418
    Distance: 2.7665% / 0.02766527
    93.4 Scandinavian_IA
    6.6 FRA_North_IA

    Target: NOR_Mid_IA:VK523
    Distance: 2.3306% / 0.02330617
    100.0 Scandinavian_IA
    R1b>M269>L23>L51>L11>P312>DF19>DF88>FGC11833 >S4281>S4268>Z17112>FT354149

    Ancestors: Francis Cooke (M223/I2a2a) b1583; Hester Mahieu (Cooke) (J1c2 mtDNA) b.1584; Richard Warren (E-M35) b1578; Elizabeth Walker (Warren) (H1j mtDNA) b1583;
    John Mead (I2a1/P37.2) b1634; Rev. Joseph Hull (I1, L1301+ L1302-) b1595; Benjamin Harrington (M223/I2a2a-Y5729) b1618; Joshua Griffith (L21>DF13) b1593;
    John Wing (U106) b1584; Thomas Gunn (DF19) b1605; Hermann Wilhelm (DF19) b1635

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    Quote Originally Posted by draugr View Post

    can you tell me if the British_IA trace was detected in the fossils from Denmark iron age?
    With qpAdm and the only I0789.SG as representant of England_IA, I get this infeasible model:

    left pops:
    Denmark_IA
    Sweden_BAC_ref
    Sweden_Megalithic_ansarve.SG
    England_IA.SG

    best coefficients: 1.370 0.227 -0.596

    fixed pat wt dof chisq tail prob
    000 0 16 9.575 0.887841 1.370 0.227 -0.596 infeasible
    001 1 17 11.423 0.833753 0.882 0.118 0.000
    010 1 17 17.907 0.394745 0.070 0.000 0.930
    100 1 17 17.418 0.42641 0.000 -0.047 1.047 infeasible
    011 2 18 17.579 0.483721 1.000 0.000 0.000
    101 2 18 562.969 0 0.000 1.000 0.000
    110 2 18 17.974 0.457362 0.000 0.000 1.000
    best pat: 000 0.887841 - -
    best pat: 001 0.833753 chi(nested): 1.848 p-value for nested model: 0.174074
    best pat: 011 0.483721 chi(nested): 6.156 p-value for nested model: 0.0130992

    You see that the nested model without England_IA gets an acceptable p-value and an enormous tail_prob. My guess anyway is that allelic tools are not the best ones for traces. We would need haplotypes for this sort of job. In any case I strongly doubt that there are more than traces of British_IA in Denmark_IA, if there are any.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Using same sources as before (we might be comparing individuals with their own average):

    Target: DNK_Jutland_IA:VK582
    Distance: 4.2678% / 0.04267818
    49.0 Scandinavian_IA
    44.6 British_IA
    6.4 CNE

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK213
    Distance: 4.1606% / 0.04160593
    50.4 Scandinavian_IA
    49.6 British_IA

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK521
    Distance: 1.8741% / 0.01874073
    96.4 Scandinavian_IA
    3.6 British_IA

    Target: DNK_Sealand_IA:VK532
    Distance: 1.6446% / 0.01644559
    64.6 Scandinavian_IA
    35.4 CNE

    EDIT -- Meanwhile the other IA Scandinavians:
     
    Target: SWE_Oland_IA:VK579
    Distance: 3.3154% / 0.03315423
    100.0 Scandinavian_IA

    Target: SWE_Oland_IA:VK522
    Distance: 2.1926% / 0.02192613
    73.8 Scandinavian_IA
    26.2 CNE

    Target: SWE_IA:RISE174
    Distance: 2.1721% / 0.02172137
    86.2 Scandinavian_IA
    13.8 FRA_North_IA

    Target: NOR_South_IA:VK391
    Distance: 3.4366% / 0.03436599
    94.4 Scandinavian_IA
    5.6 CNE

    Target: NOR_South_IA:VK390
    Distance: 2.2406% / 0.02240604
    97.4 Scandinavian_IA
    2.6 British_IA

    Target: NOR_North_IA:VK418
    Distance: 2.7665% / 0.02766527
    93.4 Scandinavian_IA
    6.6 FRA_North_IA

    Target: NOR_Mid_IA:VK523
    Distance: 2.3306% / 0.02330617
    100.0 Scandinavian_IA
    VK213 from Gerdrup clearly does have British/Irish-related ancestry. Citing the paper here:
    Although our results indicate minimal gene flow into Scandinavia from the British-Irish Isles before the Viking period, we find one interesting exception in individual VK213, a young female excavated in Gerdrup, Denmark, and dated to the 5th century (391Ė527 CE). She has the third-highest f4 value for British-Irish ancestry among the 297 ancient individuals found in Scandinavia, with PCA projections and qpAdm results indicating that this female is likely to have traced most of her ancestry to the British-Irish Isles (Figures S2A and S3B; Tables S5 and S6). This finding raises the possibility that VK213 ended up in Denmark as an indirect consequence of the Anglo-Saxon migration to the British Isles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bovefex View Post
    Hi, I've already asked this, but maybe you didn't seem my question. With "Germanic ancestry", I meant are they (partially) descended from the proto-Germanic speakers?
    Finn:
    the formation of PGmc was 'multipolair' and in a wide area
    Quote Originally Posted by anglesqueville View Post
    Non-sense.

    I guess due to this 'dogmatic one track minded opinion' of Angles:

    All these elements converge towards a single credible hypothesis: the PGmc formed in a region in constant contact with the coastal regions of the Eastern Baltic. This region cannot be located elsewhere than in middle Sweden.
    Only the descendants of the middle Swedish IA population are unique (proto) Germanic.

    The descendants of Norway IA, Denmark IA, Southern Scania IA, Northern Germany (along the Elbe) IA didn't speak a PGmc language??? But yeah what, Swahili Angles?

    It's incredible to me to detach these area's from the development of PGmc culture and specific language.
    Last edited by Finn; 01-26-2023 at 06:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webb View Post
    This sample is interesting:

    Medieval_Sweden_Jšmtland_Vasterhus wes008 1139 R1b1a1b1a1a2c

    It is a new sample, and is just Z290, which is the parent of L21 and the much smaller clade, BY22760. I believe there were a few samples from the previously published samples that were Z290 as well, going from memory on the earlier Viking Paper.
    Funny - this sample is coming up on my FTDNA aDNA matches list as L513-->S5668 (which I am). is this a misread somewhere?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finn View Post
    Finn:




    I guess due to this 'dogmatic one track minded opinion' of Angles:



    Only the descendants of the middle Swedish IA population are unique (proto) Germanic.

    The descendants of Norway IA, Denmark IA, Southern Scania IA, Northern Germany (along the Elbe) IA didn't speak a PGmc language??? But yeah what, Swahili Angles?

    It's incredible to me to detach these area's from the development of PGmc culture and specific language.
    Slogans, caricatures and emotional appeals, the usual stuff. Explain only how the notion of multi-polarity can be logically compatible with the definition of a proto-language.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jon View Post
    Funny - this sample is coming up on my FTDNA aDNA matches list as L513-->S5668 (which I am). is this a misread somewhere?
    I believe the initial call of Z290 might have been a result of one of the posters here using a computer program, or it may have been made by the authors. FTDNA probably did a little more analysis on the sample.

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