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    New model with Arabian Hunters

    Hello
    I have designed a new model trying to estimate what would be an arabian hunter gather.
    If you can try this model and post your results. Thanks in advance.

    https://justpaste.it/61nty

    My personal result

    Target: Itrane
    Distance: 1.6173% / 0.01617287
    49.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    33.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    8.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    6.2 Sub_Saharan
    1.6 Arabian_Hunter
    0.8 Western_HG
    0.4 Iranian

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    Somaliland Yemen Ethiopia
    Target: Drobbah
    Distance: 4.8621% / 0.04862109
    52.2 Sub_Saharaninka:Sudanese:SUDANESE7
    17.6 Natufians:Levant_PPNB
    14.6 Natufians:Levant_PPNB
    10.0 North_African_Mesolithic:MAR_Taforalt:North_Africa n:MAR_Taforalt:TAF011
    3.0 Sub_Saharan:ETH_4500BP:ETH_Mota:I5950_new_WGS.SG
    2.6 Arabian_Hunter:2_90
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    Target: Drobbah
    Distance: 1.3922% / 0.01392203
    53.4	KEN_Pastoral_N
    34.6	KEN_Pastoral_IA
    7.4	Saudi
    4.6	Taforalt
    
    
    Target: Drobbah_FTDNA_scaled
    Distance: 2.8058% / 0.02805777
    94.8	South/Central_Somali
    5.2	Saudi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Itrane2000 View Post
    Hello
    I have designed a new model trying to estimate what would be an arabian hunter gather.
    If you can try this model and post your results. Thanks in advance.

    https://justpaste.it/61nty

    My personal result

    Target: Itrane
    Distance: 1.6173% / 0.01617287
    49.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    33.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    8.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    6.2 Sub_Saharan
    1.6 Arabian_Hunter
    0.8 Western_HG
    0.4 Iranian
    Target: _Arab
    Distance: 0.7139% / 0.00713903
    33.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    22.0 North_African_Mesolithic
    19.0 Natufians
    14.2 Sub_Saharan
    4.0 Iranian
    3.8 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    2.8 Arabian_Hunter
    0.6 Western_HG
    0.4 Papuan

    Without ppnb samples

    Target: _Arab
    Distance: 1.1487% / 0.01148667
    51.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    25.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    14.2 Sub_Saharan
    4.0 Arabian_Hunter
    4.0 Iranian
    0.6 Papuan
    0.6 Western_HG
    0.2 America
    0.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

    With Tepecik removed (admixed with Levantine)
    Target: _Arab
    Distance: 1.1493% / 0.01149258
    50.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    25.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    14.2 Sub_Saharan
    4.4 Arabian_Hunter
    4.4 Iranian
    0.8 Finnic
    0.6 Western_HG
    0.4 Papuan

    With arab hunter gatherer removed

    Target: _Arab
    Distance: 2.9473% / 0.02947316
    42.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    27.6 North_African_Mesolithic
    13.4 Sub_Saharan
    9.0 Iranian
    6.2 Caucasus
    1.4 Western_HG
    0.2 America
    0.2 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

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    Can someone post Arabs results on this I can't be bothered to copy and paste it again

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    I have 1% Arabian HG with 23 and 0.7% with Ances (and no PPNB and other Levant admixed components)
    23andMe, averages
     
    Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01625846 | R6P
    35.7 French_Chalosse
    27.0 BelgianA
    14.2 Saharawi
    10.7 Sicilian_East
    9.4 Polish_Kashubian
    3.0 Mozabite
    Distance to closest:
    0.02643477 Spanish_CanariasLa_Palma



    Ancestry
     
    Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01634379 | R6P
    32.4 BelgianA
    28.8 French_Chalosse
    17.2 Berber_MAR_ERR
    10.0 Sicilian_East
    8.2 Polish_Kashubian
    3.4 Sardinian
    Distance to closest:
    0.02788822 Spanish_CanariasTenerife

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aben Aboo View Post
    I have 1% Arabian HG with 23 and 0.7% with Ances (and no PPNB and other Levant admixed components)
    What ever signal he created is very important and needed, it's crazy 4 percent can bring my distance down so much. Only issue I have is it gives way too much Anatolian ancestry but I suspect this is just Dzudzuana like ancestry left over. With Tepeick I can get down to 2.4 percent but that's because they are admixed with Levantine, but I always definitely need a proper Middle Eastern sample to bring my distance down

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    Muslim Andalusi Sharqi Iberia_Southeast_c.10-16CE:I12514 0.03148322

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gentica277282 View Post
    What ever signal he created is very important and needed, it's crazy 4 percent can bring my distance down so much. Only issue I have is it gives way too much Anatolian ancestry but I suspect this is just Dzudzuana like ancestry left over. With Tepeick I can get down to 2.4 percent but that's because they are admixed with Levantine, but I always definitely need a proper Middle Eastern sample to bring my distance down
    We need Arabians HG samples for to clarify and I think they will be useful for many people
    23andMe, averages
     
    Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01625846 | R6P
    35.7 French_Chalosse
    27.0 BelgianA
    14.2 Saharawi
    10.7 Sicilian_East
    9.4 Polish_Kashubian
    3.0 Mozabite
    Distance to closest:
    0.02643477 Spanish_CanariasLa_Palma



    Ancestry
     
    Distance: 0.0163% / 0.01634379 | R6P
    32.4 BelgianA
    28.8 French_Chalosse
    17.2 Berber_MAR_ERR
    10.0 Sicilian_East
    8.2 Polish_Kashubian
    3.4 Sardinian
    Distance to closest:
    0.02788822 Spanish_CanariasTenerife

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    Target: Mom_scaled
    Distance: 2.5542% / 0.02554238
    46.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    20.0 America
    17.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    8.4 Western_HG
    3.4 North_African_Mesolithic
    2.2 Sub_Saharan
    1.6 Arabian_Hunter
    0.6 Sub_saharan_Bushmen

    Target: Dad_scaled
    Distance: 2.1224% / 0.02122426
    28.2 Caucasus
    28.2 Natufians
    26.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    11.0 Iranian
    3.6 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.8 Arabian_Hunter
    1.0 Western_HG

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    Other Levantine samples including from Middle Ages

    Target: Levantine:Lebanese_Christian
    Distance: 0.7387% / 0.00738673
    32.6 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    26.6 Caucasus
    23.8 Natufians
    11.2 Iranian
    2.8 Arabian_Hunter
    1.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    1.0 Western_HG
    0.4 Sub_Saharan
    0.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara

    Target: Levantine:Lebanese_Christian_Greek_Orthodox
    Distance: 0.7464% / 0.00746421
    33.4 Caucasus
    27.8 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    25.2 Natufians
    9.4 Iranian
    2.2 Arabian_Hunter
    0.8 North_African_Mesolithic
    0.8 Western_HG
    0.4 Sub_Saharan

    Target: Levantine:Lebanese_Christian_Maronite
    Distance: 0.7586% / 0.00758560
    31.6 Caucasus
    29.8 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    23.8 Natufians
    10.0 Iranian
    2.4 Arabian_Hunter
    1.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    1.0 Western_HG
    0.2 Sub_Saharan

    Target: East_Med:Greek_Cyprus_(Lebanese_Christian_Maronite _Profile)
    Distance: 1.9058% / 0.01905849
    30.2 Natufians
    28.8 Caucasus
    28.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    10.0 Iranian
    2.6 Arabian_Hunter
    0.4 Western_HG

    Target: Levantine:Lebanese_Christian_Melkite
    Distance: 1.3494% / 0.01349358
    35.2 Natufians
    20.4 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    19.8 Caucasus
    16.2 Iranian
    6.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    1.0 Arabian_Hunter
    0.4 North_African_Mesolithic
    0.4 Western_HG
    0.2 China

    Target: Levant:Levant_MA
    Distance: 1.8869% / 0.01886894
    30.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    29.8 Caucasus
    27.2 Natufians
    8.6 Iranian
    2.4 Arabian_Hunter
    1.6 Sub_Saharan
    0.4 North_African_Mesolithic

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    Arabian samples


    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Bedouin_NegevB
    Distance: 2.0299% / 0.02029867
    79.2 Natufians
    8.0 Iranian
    7.6 Arabian_Hunter
    3.6 Sub_Saharan
    1.6 North_African_Mesolithic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Bedouin_NegevA
    Distance: 0.7477% / 0.00747710
    43.4 Natufians
    23.2 Caucasus
    10.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    7.4 Iranian
    7.0 Sub_Saharan
    3.8 North_African_Mesolithic
    3.2 Arabian_Hunter
    0.8 Finnic
    0.6 Western_HG
    0.4 Yamnaya_RUS_Samara
    0.2 Turkic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Emirati_(Arabian_Profile)
    Distance: 1.8351% / 0.01835117
    69.6 Natufians
    13.0 Iranian
    8.8 Arabian_Hunter
    4.8 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    2.4 Sub_Saharan
    1.4 Turkic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Omani
    Distance: 0.7911% / 0.00791080
    42.4 Natufians
    18.4 Iranian
    15.8 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    8.2 Sub_Saharan
    5.4 Arabian_Hunter
    4.2 Finnic
    3.8 Caucasus
    1.2 North_African_Mesolithic
    0.4 Western_HG
    0.2 South_Asian

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Mahra
    Distance: 2.2015% / 0.02201547
    81.2 Natufians
    8.0 Arabian_Hunter
    5.6 Iranian
    2.0 North_African_Mesolithic
    1.6 Sub_Saharan
    0.6 Papuan
    0.6 Turkic
    0.4 South_Asian

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Ma'rib
    Distance: 1.7196% / 0.01719648
    78.4 Natufians
    9.8 Iranian
    6.4 Arabian_Hunter
    4.6 Sub_Saharan
    0.8 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Dhamar
    Distance: 1.5965% / 0.01596471
    73.8 Natufians
    8.8 Iranian
    5.8 Arabian_Hunter
    5.8 Sub_Saharan
    5.0 Caucasus
    0.8 North_African_Mesolithic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Amran
    Distance: 1.1981% / 0.01198064
    70.0 Natufians
    11.0 Iranian
    7.4 Caucasus
    5.4 Arabian_Hunter
    4.4 Sub_Saharan
    1.0 Turkic
    0.6 North_African_Mesolithic
    0.2 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Al_Jawf
    Distance: 1.7992% / 0.01799153
    80.6 Natufians
    8.0 Iranian
    7.4 Arabian_Hunter
    3.4 Sub_Saharan
    0.6 Turkic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Yemeni_Al_Bayda
    Distance: 1.4189% / 0.01418870
    76.2 Natufians
    11.6 Iranian
    6.2 Arabian_Hunter
    5.2 Sub_Saharan
    0.6 Turkic
    0.2 North_African_Mesolithic

    Target: Arabian_Peninsula:Saudi
    Distance: 1.3501% / 0.01350064
    74.0 Natufians
    10.0 Iranian
    7.4 Arabian_Hunter
    4.0 Anatolian_Neolithic_Farmers
    3.0 Sub_Saharan
    0.8 North_African_Mesolithic
    0.8 Turkic

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