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I am not a DNA expert; I just mapped the location of some folks who match me on the same sticky segment for Swedish (and possibly Danish) grandparent. We do have Forest Finn Swedish DNA, so tons of Finnish, Ingrian, and Karelian matches in the same segment. Most matches around Tornio (we are not from there, but pre-1600s some untitled noble Västerbotten families populated areas of Jämtland we came from). East Finn founders are the same population as the settlers of Tornio around the same time. I’m not sure why I match more folks up there but okay.
Longest matching segment is to a Karelian. All segments from Sweden to Ingria are the same size. Called “2nd-4th” cousins but probably match from 1600s (not so weird for this endogamous background). Segment gets smaller east and south of Karelia but then it’s roughly the same size in these areas. So these are older matches or newer matches? I’m confused. Anyway, my dad has 34k matches, which is ridiculous, but I think a few thousand (at least) are just distant cousins on this pattern.
Question is if you see a pattern or if there is a way to tell. I get mixed info on where birkarls came from but I know Bayor families were highly endogamous and originated in Novgorod. These also look like trade routes? I don’t know exactly which ones or how old - if I can’t understand which direction this smaller segments go in time.
I get Swedish on Gedmatch Eurogenes and MDLP. But the other models switch Swedish out for Volga or Belarusian.