Genetics of Sudanese Arabs

[Abceff]

neolithic:

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Batahin
Distance: 2.3009% / 0.02300876
48.6 Levant_Natufian_contam:I1072
20.6 SSA:KEN_Kakapel_900BP
12.4 SSAinka:B_Dinka-3
7.4 Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1290
6.4 Iran_N:IRN_Wezmeh_N:WC1
4.6 EEF:I1098

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Ja'alin
Distance: 1.9832% / 0.01983209
42.8 Levant_Natufian_contam:I1072
25.4 SSAinka:B_Dinka-3
18.2 SSA:KEN_Kakapel_900BP
9.8 Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945
3.8 EEF:I1098

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Shaigia
Distance: 1.7672% / 0.01767191
37.4 Levant_Natufian_contam:I1072
22.2 SSA:KEN_Kakapel_900BP
16.6 SSAinkainka2
9.2 Iran_N:IRN_Wezmeh_N:WC1
9.2 SSAinka:B_Dinka-3
3.0 EEF:I1585
1.8 EEF:I1098
0.6 Iran_N:IRN_Ganj_Dareh_N:I1945

[drobbah]

I tried modelling them

ancients:

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Batahin
Distance: 0.8732% / 0.00873219
55.4 Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
35.2 Bedouin_NegevB
8.8 Kenya_Kakapel_900BP
0.6 Yoruba_Nigeria

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Ja'alin
Distance: 0.9697% / 0.00969665
69.6 Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
16.2 Bedouin_NegevB
11.8 Kenya_Kakapel_900BP
2.4 Yoruba_Nigeria

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Shaigia
Distance: 1.0867% / 0.01086667
75.4 Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
13.8 Kenya_Kakapel_900BP
7.0 Bedouin_NegevB
2.8 Yoruba_Nigeria
1.0 Yemeni

moderns:

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Batahin
Distance: 0.9219% / 0.00921862
63.6 Nubian_modern
32.0 Bedouin_NegevB
4.4 Dinka

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Ja'alin
Distance: 0.7389% / 0.00738913
79.6 Nubian_modern
12.6 Bedouin_NegevB
7.8 Dinka

Target: Sudanese_Arab_Shaigia
Distance: 1.0107% / 0.01010742
84.2 Nubian_modern
9.6 Dinka
4.8 Yemeni
0.8 Bedouin_NegevB
0.6 Yoruba_Nigeria

Modern Nubians have Arabian admixture & extra Nilo-Saharan, it’s best to use medieval Christian Nubians.The Ja’alin from what I read are actually just Arabized Nubians.The Bataheen,Kababish & Baggara seem to actually be Arab tribes as you can find individuals in those tribes that are 40-60% Arabian

[drobbah]

Target: Sudanese_Bataheen:470
Distance: 2.1134% / 0.02113416
55.0	Yemeni_Mahra
22.8	South_Sudanese
19.2	Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
3.0	Cushtiic_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan

This is the Ja'alin
Target: Sudanese_Gaalien:10
Distance: 2.4762% / 0.02476246
62.2	Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
17.6	Yemeni_Mahra
12.0	South_Sudanese
8.2	Zaghawa_Sudan

Beja pastoralists (originally Beja N.Cushitic speakers):

Target: Sudanese_BeniAmer:189
Distance: 2.0054% / 0.02005429
57.4	Cushtiic_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan
34.6	Yemeni_Mahra
5.8	Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
2.2	Zaghawa_Sudan


	
	
Target: Sudanese_Hadendowa:187
Distance: 2.7730% / 0.02773039
46.4	Nubia_Medieval_Christian_Era_Kulubnarti
29.2	Cushtiic_Pastoral_N_Elmenteitan
17.6	Yemeni_Mahra
6.8	Zaghawa_Sudan

Sudanese Rashaida

Target: Sudan_ArabRashaayda:RAS19
Distance: 2.9508% / 0.02950805
100.0	Yemeni_Mahra

[Hurricane]

Sudanese Arabs are a mixture between Arabian Bedouins,Medieval Nubian farmers & Nilo-Saharan ancestry

And some of them have Berber ancestry as well

[Scs]

The Baggara, Bataheen and Kababish are also arabized tribes too. Some more than others but they all have a non-arab origin with the exception of some Kababish sub-groups.

[drobbah]

And some of them have Berber ancestry as well

Doesn’t seem like it tbh

[drobbah]

The Baggara, Bataheen and Kababish are also arabized tribes too. Some more than others but they all have a non-arab origin with the exception of some Kababish sub-groups.

It’s the other way around, the Arabs adopted a lot of local customs and non-Arab admixture.A Kababish individual who is 40-60% Arabian,identifies themselves as Arabs,speak an Arabic dialect and is probably dominated by Arabian J-P58 isn’t Arabized imo

[Scs]

The Kababish are very diverse so I'm willing to give you room there. But Arabisation in the case of Sudan just involves Arabian geneflow, cultural exchange and the linguistic replacement of indigenous languages by Arabic. But the other mentioned groups have clear origins and descent from Indigenous groups having intermarried with Arab migrants and gradually over time lost their language and became Arabic speakers and practicing Arab culture.

[Scs]

Thanks, this is what I was looking for. What is the Kakapel sample and what is it representing in this model. Also what are the EEF samples.

Don't most Natufian samples have passed on Autosomal SSA making it less reliable for a complete raw breakdown of the model. The results still interestingly deviate from cited studies. Do you have any idea why this could be?

[drobbah]

Thanks, this is what I was looking for. What is the Kakapel sample and what is it representing in this model. Also what are the EEF samples.

Don't most Natufian samples have passed on Autosomal SSA making it less reliable for a complete raw breakdown of the model. The results still interestingly deviate from cited studies. Do you have any idea why this could be?

Kakapel is a Dinka-like sample with minor Eurasian ancestry