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    hi BMG... i am sending it
    HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS -

    A16129G
    T16187C
    C16189T
    T16223C
    G16230A
    C16260T
    C16261T
    T16278C
    C16311T
    G16319A
    T16362C
    C16519T
    G16526A

    HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
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    Position CRS Your Result
    16260 C T
    16261 C T
    16319 G A
    16362 T C
    16526 G A.

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    I spent about 11k rs for the full sequencing....it has not arrived as yet!, if i knew you could do the same i would have been spared the moolah!

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    @ BMG.... would you have any similar ideas for U1 mt dna( my mt dna)...I have a feeling it may be similar to Mandoos!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishankar View Post
    hi BMG... i am sending it
    HVR1 DIFFERENCES FROM RSRS -

    A16129G
    T16187C
    C16189T
    T16223C
    G16230A
    C16260T
    C16261T
    T16278C
    C16311T
    G16319A
    T16362C
    C16519T
    G16526A

    HVR1 REFERENCE SEQUENCE
    Show All Positions
    Position CRS Your Result
    16260 C T
    16261 C T
    16319 G A
    16362 T C
    16526 G A.
    Haplogroup is R7a . Full sequence would reveal further subclades

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    Quote Originally Posted by vishankar View Post
    I spent about 11k rs for the full sequencing....it has not arrived as yet!, if i knew you could do the same i would have been spared the moolah!
    The full sequence will add to the details and surely will be an asset to south asian database . But it is too costly . For me i stopped with geno 2.0 for mtdna . My relatives mtdna data is from 23andme v4 which was enough for me to predict the subclades though it lacked few improtant sites and had many no-calls .

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    found some Karnataka/konkan/marathi kits on genesis, guessing most of these are brahmins:

    Surname Nayak:

    1 S-Indian 44.44
    2 Baloch 36.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.08
    4 Caucasian 6.18
    5 SW-Asian 1.74
    6 Siberian 0.95
    7 Papuan 0.72
    8 SE-Asian 0.66
    9 Mediterranean 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.49
    11 NE-Asian 0.48
    12 American 0.05


    Surname: Karkera/kamath

    1 S-Indian 49.02
    2 Baloch 34.78
    3 NE-Euro 5.2
    4 Caucasian 5.12
    5 SW-Asian 1.96
    6 NE-Asian 1.44
    7 Beringian 0.91
    8 American 0.56
    9 Mediterranean 0.47
    10 Siberian 0.24
    11 Papuan 0.17
    12 Pygmy 0.12


    Surname: Kamath

    1 S-Indian 46.7
    2 Baloch 36.13
    3 Caucasian 8.3
    4 NE-Euro 5.18
    5 Beringian 1.79
    6 Papuan 1.36
    7 NE-Asian 0.38
    8 Siberian 0.15


    Surname: Kamath

    1 S-Indian 45.4
    2 Baloch 35.62
    3 NE-Euro 7.17
    4 Caucasian 5.03
    5 SW-Asian 1.53
    6 Mediterranean 1.5
    7 NE-Asian 1.45
    8 Siberian 1.12
    9 American 0.99
    10 Beringian 0.18


    Surname: Shenvi

    1 S-Indian 45.49
    2 Baloch 35.47
    3 NE-Euro 6.92
    4 Caucasian 6.25
    5 Beringian 1.37
    6 SW-Asian 1.32
    7 NE-Asian 1.01
    8 Papuan 0.6
    9 Pygmy 0.58
    10 SE-Asian 0.57
    11 Siberian 0.42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rustyshakelford View Post
    found some Karnataka/konkan/marathi kits on genesis, guessing most of these are brahmins:

    Surname Nayak:

    1 S-Indian 44.44
    2 Baloch 36.63
    3 NE-Euro 7.08
    4 Caucasian 6.18
    5 SW-Asian 1.74
    6 Siberian 0.95
    7 Papuan 0.72
    8 SE-Asian 0.66
    9 Mediterranean 0.59
    10 Beringian 0.49
    11 NE-Asian 0.48
    12 American 0.05


    Surname: Karkera/kamath

    1 S-Indian 49.02
    2 Baloch 34.78
    3 NE-Euro 5.2
    4 Caucasian 5.12
    5 SW-Asian 1.96
    6 NE-Asian 1.44
    7 Beringian 0.91
    8 American 0.56
    9 Mediterranean 0.47
    10 Siberian 0.24
    11 Papuan 0.17
    12 Pygmy 0.12


    Surname: Kamath

    1 S-Indian 46.7
    2 Baloch 36.13
    3 Caucasian 8.3
    4 NE-Euro 5.18
    5 Beringian 1.79
    6 Papuan 1.36
    7 NE-Asian 0.38
    8 Siberian 0.15


    Surname: Kamath

    1 S-Indian 45.4
    2 Baloch 35.62
    3 NE-Euro 7.17
    4 Caucasian 5.03
    5 SW-Asian 1.53
    6 Mediterranean 1.5
    7 NE-Asian 1.45
    8 Siberian 1.12
    9 American 0.99
    10 Beringian 0.18


    Surname: Shenvi

    1 S-Indian 45.49
    2 Baloch 35.47
    3 NE-Euro 6.92
    4 Caucasian 6.25
    5 Beringian 1.37
    6 SW-Asian 1.32
    7 NE-Asian 1.01
    8 Papuan 0.6
    9 Pygmy 0.58
    10 SE-Asian 0.57
    11 Siberian 0.42
    These are chitpavan surnames.

    I score nearly identical to these kits (45 south indian, 35 baloch, about 7% euro and 5% caucasus) with slightly higher NE asian and lower med in some cases. Though I think american and beringian along with NE asian and siberian are all steppe tied in some fashion.

    Do note that I did find a chitpavan kit on another site in looking where they scored 5% caucasus and 3% NE euro. The brahmins along the konkan coast are remarkably homogenous until they hit close to gujarat, where you start seeing a large NW shift in brahmins. Phenotype actually doesn't reflect this though, although there are quite a few explanations for this. Something we could talk more about in the pheno thread.

    Now that our former friend/poster is gone (I won't reference it beyond this post), and I have an interest in kerala and some maternal ties to pallakkad, I will do my best to assume his place and add some meaningful content here .
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    Quote Originally Posted by 26284729292 View Post
    These are chitpavan surnames
    They are not chitapavan but gsb's . Kamath and Shenoy are exclusive konkani(gsb/rsb/csb) surnames . Nayak is also used by gsb but also by many other marathi brahmin and non-brahmin communities . Karkera is a Billava surname .

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    yeah ...GSB surnames Karkera is billava like BMG said

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    Quote Originally Posted by BMG View Post
    They are not chitapavan but gsb's . Kamath and Shenoy are exclusive konkani(gsb/rsb/csb) surnames . Nayak is also used by gsb but also by many other marathi brahmin and non-brahmin communities . Karkera is a Billava surname .
    This is my bad. They speak konkani so I tend to confuse them. GSB covers quite a broad range of brams in the area, no?

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