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    Geno2 or Chromo2

    Is there an overview somewhere on the web of the SNPs supported by (1) the Geno2 chip and (2) the Chromo2 chip ?

    I'm aware the Chromo2 chip supports P312, DF27, and DF99, but are there any other key differences that might direct a suspect P312+ to one of those chips ?

    E.g. is DF100/CTS4528 supported by Geno2 or Chromo2 ??

    It could well be, most people in this world are focussing completely on Big-Y. My impression is, there's still a lot of people, e.g. those with 37 markers and a red "R-M269" estimate from FT-DNA, who might be more interested in ordering a chip test than investing 3x as much in a Big-Y test. Strange thought ??
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    Hi, Peter.

    I just emailed you an Excel file of Chromo2 SNPs that includes their alternate names. Hopefully, you didn't already have it.

    DF100/CTS4528 is included in Chromo2. It is S1200.
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    With rms2's spreadsheet and a few other sources, I've made an overview of P312 SNPs on both chips:

    Name S-Name Geno2 Chromo2
    M269 -- - -
    L23 -- + -
    L51 -- + -
    L11 S127 + -
    P311 S128 - +
    U106 S21 + -
    Z18 S493 + +
    Z381 S263 + +
    DF100 S1203 - +
    CTS4528 S1200 + +
    P312 S116 - +
    L21 S145 + +
    U152 S28 + -
    DF27 S250 - +
    DF19 S232 + +
    L238 S182 - -
    DF99 S11987 - +
    Please note both (1) L11 and P311 and (2) DF100 and CTS4528 are considered phylogenetically equivalent.

    There still are a few questions:

    (1) Is it correct Chromo2 doesn't support L23 and L51 (there doesn't seem to be a published S-name for those SNPs) ?
    (2) I cannot find U106/S21 and L238/S182 in the rms2 file; are these SNP not supported by Chromo2 ??
    (3) Is it correct Chromo2 doesn't support U152 ?

    (4) Are there any other errors or omissions in this overview ???
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    CTS4528 is included in Geno 2.0. I uploaded a spreadsheet that has the Geno 2.0 markers that are tested by Geno 2.0.

    https://www.dropbox.com/s/a0zw9hcdzm...20markers.xlsx

    You can also go to the SNP page of the DF100 project and see that CTS4528 is included in the Geno 2.0 results of testees.

    https://www.familytreedna.com/public...x?section=ysnp

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    R1b-S21 is on the Spreadsheet that has the Chromo2 Y genotypes for 2000 anonymised individuals. Also L238/S182

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel View Post
    R1b-S21 is on the Spreadsheet that has the Chromo2 Y genotypes for 2000 anonymised individuals. Also L238/S182

    Joel
    Hmm.. not on the copy I have. Neither S21 nor S182 were in the C_2000_v2 spreadsheet I have (retrieved from http://www.yourgeneticgenealogist.co...p-results.html), but apparently were being genotyped as an additional process.

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    I am pretty sure that S21 (U106) and S28 (U152) are included in Chromo2. Both SNPs were originally discovered by Dr. Jim Wilson back in 2005(?) or thereabouts and are featured on BritainsDNA members' homepages as "Germanic" and "Alpine" respectively.

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    I took the Chromo2 Y genotypes for 2000 anonymised individuals spreadsheet and changed the rows to columns and got this for R1b-S21. I also took out the repeat results. I didn't take out the repeats for S28, but the list should be a similar length as below.

    R1b-S21 R1b-S170
    R1b-S21 R1b-S172
    R1b-S21 R1b-S186
    R1b-S21 R1b-S21*
    R1b-S21 R1b-S261
    R1b-S21 R1b-S263
    R1b-S21 R1b-S264
    R1b-S21 R1b-S265
    R1b-S21 R1b-S266
    R1b-S21 R1b-S267
    R1b-S21 R1b-S268
    R1b-S21 R1b-S271
    R1b-S21 R1b-S272
    R1b-S21 R1b-S274
    R1b-S21 R1b-S276
    R1b-S21 R1b-S29
    R1b-S21 R1b-S352
    R1b-S21 R1b-S353
    R1b-S21 R1b-S375
    R1b-S21 R1b-S376
    R1b-S21 R1b-S380
    R1b-S21 R1b-S385
    R1b-S21 R1b-S3933
    R1b-S21 R1b-S500
    R1b-S21 R1b-S512
    R1b-S21 R1b-S514
    R1b-S21 R1b-S515
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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I am pretty sure that S21 (U106) and S28 (U152) are included in Chromo2. Both SNPs were originally discovered by Dr. Jim Wilson back in 2005(?) or thereabouts and are featured on BritainsDNA members' homepages as "Germanic" and "Alpine" respectively.
    I would be surprised if Chromo 2 doesn't test for L238/S182 as well, as their previous incarnation Ethnoancestry was the first commercial company to offer testing for it, and I know Jim Wilson was very interested it as an indicator of Norse origins in Britain. That being said, it may not have been included in the spreadsheet they released.

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    Here are the results on the Wilson Spreadsheet. They are on columns BAZ-BBE

    1007 1008 1520 1691 1767 1773
    R1b-S182 R1b-S182 R1b-S182 R1b-S182 R1b-S182 R1b-S182

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