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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.45
    2 European_Early_Farmers 24.35
    3 Caucasian 21.51
    4 South_Central_Asian 5.84
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 5.67
    6 Austronesian 1.58
    7 Paleo_Siberian 1.25
    8 East_Siberian 1.13
    9 Near_East 0.72
    10 Khoisan 0.67
    11 Archaic_African 0.45
    12 Archaic_Human 0.2
    13 East_African 0.1




    I noticed the calculator is updated.

    Here is my new results:

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.02
    2 European_Early_Farmers 26.15
    3 Caucasian 21.08
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.19
    5 South_Central_Asian 4.89
    6 East_Siberian 1.75
    7 Near_East 1.45
    8 Tungus-Altaic 0.97
    9 East_African 0.34
    10 Amerindian 0.34
    11 Arctic 0.29
    12 Archaic_Human 0.29
    13 Melano_Polynesian 0.18
    14 Archaic_African 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Belgian ( ) 3.57
    2 Dutch ( ) 3.63
    3 Frisian ( ) 3.99
    4 English ( ) 4.01
    5 Irish ( ) 4.34
    6 Swede ( ) 4.48
    7 Dane ( ) 4.48
    8 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.9
    9 North_European ( ) 5.25
    10 North_German ( ) 5.28
    11 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 6.44
    12 South_German ( ) 6.49
    13 German-Volga ( ) 7.04
    14 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 7.14
    15 Norwegian_West ( ) 7.29
    16 CEU ( ) 7.31
    17 British ( ) 7.92
    18 Welsh ( ) 8.22
    19 Icelandic ( ) 8.56
    20 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.03

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91% Belgian ( ) + 9% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.28
    2 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Mari ( ) @ 1.44
    3 92.3% Belgian ( ) + 7.7% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 1.48
    4 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.58
    5 90.6% Frisian ( ) + 9.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.62
    6 91.3% Belgian ( ) + 8.7% Udmurd ( ) @ 1.63
    7 90.7% Belgian ( ) + 9.3% Chuvash ( ) @ 1.65
    8 92.7% Belgian ( ) + 7.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.66
    9 90.1% Belgian ( ) + 9.9% Chuvashs ( ) @ 1.66
    10 91.7% Frisian ( ) + 8.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.72
    11 79.1% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 20.9% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 1.73
    12 95% Belgian ( ) + 5% Selkup ( ) @ 1.74
    13 90.2% Belgian ( ) + 9.8% Komi ( ) @ 1.78
    14 90.8% Frisian ( ) + 9.2% Mari ( ) @ 1.78
    15 80.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 19.2% Tatar_Kryashen ( ) @ 1.8
    16 56.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 43.1% French ( ) @ 1.8
    17 95.7% Belgian ( ) + 4.3% Ket ( ) @ 1.84
    18 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Saami_Kola ( ) @ 1.84
    19 90.4% Frisian ( ) + 9.6% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.85
    20 83.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 16.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 1.85


    Belgian and Dutch is a classic halfway between my 37.5% Italian and 50 % Swedish. The rest around 10 % Saami + similar popuilation represent my true ancestry around 10-13% Swedish Saami.

    Don't think number 16 + 20 in mixed mode population makes any sense. Too much Saami and I have seen many people get high without any ancestry.

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.55
    2 European_Early_Farmers 29.62
    3 Caucasian 18.97
    4 South_Central_Asian 6.64
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.7
    6 North_African 2.74
    7 Arctic 0.78
    8 Subsaharian 0.7
    9 Austronesian 0.2
    10 Archaic_African 0.09

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_European ( ) 2.36
    2 CEU ( ) 2.98
    3 English ( ) 3.39
    4 Welsh ( ) 3.47
    5 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 3.56
    6 British ( ) 3.87
    7 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 4
    8 Irish ( ) 4.61
    9 Norwegian_East ( ) 5.03
    10 Norwegian_West ( ) 5.17
    11 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR ( ) 5.34
    12 Icelandic ( ) 5.84
    13 Belgian ( ) 6.04
    14 Frisian ( ) 6.37
    15 Orcadian ( ) 6.49
    16 Swede ( ) 7.61
    17 Dutch ( ) 8.01
    18 French ( ) 8.27
    19 Dane ( ) 8.55
    20 North_German ( ) 9.54

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 93.3% North_European ( ) + 6.7% Spanish_Canarias_IBS ( ) @ 1.97
    2 90.9% North_European ( ) + 9.1% Portugese ( ) @ 2.02
    3 93.7% North_European ( ) + 6.3% Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS ( ) @ 2.05
    4 94.7% North_European ( ) + 5.3% Spanish_Andalucia_IBS ( ) @ 2.09
    5 93.5% North_European ( ) + 6.5% Spanish_Extremadura_IBS ( ) @ 2.09
    6 95.1% North_European ( ) + 4.9% Spanish_Valencia_IBS ( ) @ 2.1
    7 94.2% North_European ( ) + 5.8% Spanish_Murcia_IBS ( ) @ 2.1
    8 93.7% North_European ( ) + 6.3% Spanish_Galicia_IBS ( ) @ 2.1
    9 96.3% North_European ( ) + 3.7% French_South ( ) @ 2.1
    10 94.1% North_European ( ) + 5.9% Spanish_Cataluna_IBS ( ) @ 2.1
    11 95.6% North_European ( ) + 4.4% Spanish_Cantabria_IBS ( ) @ 2.1
    12 72.3% North_European ( ) + 27.7% Welsh ( ) @ 2.11
    13 95.5% North_European ( ) + 4.5% Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS ( ) @ 2.11
    14 95.7% North_European ( ) + 4.3% Spanish_Aragon_IBS ( ) @ 2.11
    15 97.5% North_European ( ) + 2.5% Spanish_Pais_Vasco_IBS ( ) @ 2.11
    16 98.1% North_European ( ) + 1.9% Basque_French ( ) @ 2.12
    17 98.1% North_European ( ) + 1.9% Basque_Spanish ( ) @ 2.13
    18 93.9% North_European ( ) + 6.1% Spaniard ( ) @ 2.14
    19 97.9% North_European ( ) + 2.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 2.17
    20 92.9% Welsh ( ) + 7.1% Kuban_cossack ( ) @ 2.2







    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.55
    2 European_Early_Farmers 29.62
    3 Caucasian 18.97
    4 South_Central_Asian 6.64
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 3.70
    6 North_African 2.74


    Finished reading population data. 620 populations found.
    23 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_European_ @ 2.836801
    2 CEU_ @ 2.978139
    3 English_ @ 3.005295
    4 Welsh_ @ 3.504555
    5 Irish_ @ 3.852242
    6 English_Kent_GBR_ @ 3.861805
    7 British_ @ 3.879794
    8 English_Cornwall_GBR_ @ 3.971444
    9 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 4.309989
    10 Belgian_ @ 4.761779
    11 Frisian_ @ 4.878223
    12 Orcadian_ @ 4.978308
    13 Dutch_ @ 6.853421
    14 Icelandic_ @ 7.089874
    15 Norwegian_West_ @ 7.333893
    16 South_German_ @ 7.359663
    17 Norwegian_East_ @ 7.620492
    18 German-Volga_ @ 8.286004
    19 Dane_ @ 10.052047
    20 French_ @ 10.084699

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_European_ +50% Welsh_ @ 2.356642


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ +25% Sorb_ +25% Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 2.232781


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++
    1 Kashub_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 2.118872
    2 Icelandic_ + North_German_ + Portugese_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.161388
    3 Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Cantabria_IBS_ @ 2.165394
    4 Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 2.175523
    5 Kashub_ + Orcadian_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Castilla_y_Leon_IBS_ @ 2.184013
    6 Icelandic_ + Irish_ + Portugese_ + Swede_ @ 2.205692
    7 Kashub_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 2.212179
    8 Icelandic_ + Irish_ + Norwegian_East_ + Portugese_ @ 2.217075
    9 North_German_ + Norwegian_East_ + Portugese_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.224383
    10 Dutch_ + Icelandic_ + Icelandic_ + Portugese_ @ 2.224425
    11 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Sorb_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 2.232781
    12 Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Aragon_IBS_ @ 2.239724
    13 Kashub_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Andalucia_IBS_ @ 2.245344
    14 Orcadian_ + Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Valencia_IBS_ @ 2.248698
    15 French_South_ + North_European_ + Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.252567
    16 North_German_ + Norwegian_West_ + Portugese_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.260866
    17 English_ + French_South_ + Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.275460
    18 Dutch_ + Icelandic_ + Norwegian_East_ + Portugese_ @ 2.278810
    19 Russian_North_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ + Spanish_Castilla_la_Mancha_IBS_ @ 2.280325
    20 Norwegian_East_ + Norwegian_East_ + Portugese_ + Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR_ @ 2.285684
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
     





    I noticed the calculator is updated.

    Here is my new results:

     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 36.02
    2 European_Early_Farmers 26.15
    3 Caucasian 21.08
    4 Ancestral_Altaic 6.19
    5 South_Central_Asian 4.89
    6 East_Siberian 1.75
    7 Near_East 1.45
    8 Tungus-Altaic 0.97
    9 East_African 0.34
    10 Amerindian 0.34
    11 Arctic 0.29
    12 Archaic_Human 0.29
    13 Melano_Polynesian 0.18
    14 Archaic_African 0.06

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Belgian ( ) 3.57
    2 Dutch ( ) 3.63
    3 Frisian ( ) 3.99
    4 English ( ) 4.01
    5 Irish ( ) 4.34
    6 Swede ( ) 4.48
    7 Dane ( ) 4.48
    8 Norwegian_East ( ) 4.9
    9 North_European ( ) 5.25
    10 North_German ( ) 5.28
    11 English_Kent_GBR ( ) 6.44
    12 South_German ( ) 6.49
    13 German-Volga ( ) 7.04
    14 English_Cornwall_GBR ( ) 7.14
    15 Norwegian_West ( ) 7.29
    16 CEU ( ) 7.31
    17 British ( ) 7.92
    18 Welsh ( ) 8.22
    19 Icelandic ( ) 8.56
    20 Swede_Saami ( ) 9.03

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91% Belgian ( ) + 9% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.28
    2 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Mari ( ) @ 1.44
    3 92.3% Belgian ( ) + 7.7% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 1.48
    4 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.58
    5 90.6% Frisian ( ) + 9.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.62
    6 91.3% Belgian ( ) + 8.7% Udmurd ( ) @ 1.63
    7 90.7% Belgian ( ) + 9.3% Chuvash ( ) @ 1.65
    8 92.7% Belgian ( ) + 7.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.66
    9 90.1% Belgian ( ) + 9.9% Chuvashs ( ) @ 1.66
    10 91.7% Frisian ( ) + 8.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.72
    11 79.1% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 20.9% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 1.73
    12 95% Belgian ( ) + 5% Selkup ( ) @ 1.74
    13 90.2% Belgian ( ) + 9.8% Komi ( ) @ 1.78
    14 90.8% Frisian ( ) + 9.2% Mari ( ) @ 1.78
    15 80.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 19.2% Tatar_Kryashen ( ) @ 1.8
    16 56.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 43.1% French ( ) @ 1.8
    17 95.7% Belgian ( ) + 4.3% Ket ( ) @ 1.84
    18 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Saami_Kola ( ) @ 1.84
    19 90.4% Frisian ( ) + 9.6% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.85
    20 83.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 16.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 1.85


    Belgian and Dutch is a classic halfway between my 37.5% Italian and 50 % Swedish. The rest around 10 % Saami + similar popuilation represent my true ancestry around 10-13% Swedish Saami.

    Don't think number 16 + 20 in mixed mode population makes any sense. Too much Saami and I have seen many people get high without any ancestry.
    this model is terrible for you. your 1/4-1/3 north Italian isn't picked up at all, even in lower amounts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JerryS. View Post
    this model is terrible for you. your 1/4-1/3 north Italian isn't picked up at all, even in lower amounts.
    No. But most calculators and even G25 Nmonte runs puts me in between population so I am used to it.
    Like CEU/Central European,Dutch or West German/French.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nino90 View Post
    No. But most calculators and even G25 Nmonte runs puts me in between population so I am used to it.
    Like CEU/Central European,Dutch or West German/French.
    yes, regionally mixed people like us get plotted somewhere in between our groups, but the mixed mode two population groups usually show a primary region and a secondary region consistent even for regionally mixed people if from the same continent. that's why I was surprised by your list. Sardinian at #20 could be acceptable but the other secondary groups I simply don't understand why they were used...
    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 91% Belgian ( ) + 9% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.28
    2 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Mari ( ) @ 1.44
    3 92.3% Belgian ( ) + 7.7% Tatar-Siberian ( ) @ 1.48
    4 91.6% Belgian ( ) + 8.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.58
    5 90.6% Frisian ( ) + 9.4% Saami_Finland ( ) @ 1.62
    6 91.3% Belgian ( ) + 8.7% Udmurd ( ) @ 1.63
    7 90.7% Belgian ( ) + 9.3% Chuvash ( ) @ 1.65
    8 92.7% Belgian ( ) + 7.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.66
    9 90.1% Belgian ( ) + 9.9% Chuvashs ( ) @ 1.66
    10 91.7% Frisian ( ) + 8.3% Saami ( ) @ 1.72
    11 79.1% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 20.9% Tatar-Kazan ( ) @ 1.73
    12 95% Belgian ( ) + 5% Selkup ( ) @ 1.74
    13 90.2% Belgian ( ) + 9.8% Komi ( ) @ 1.78
    14 90.8% Frisian ( ) + 9.2% Mari ( ) @ 1.78
    15 80.8% English_Kent_GBR ( ) + 19.2% Tatar_Kryashen ( ) @ 1.8
    16 56.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 43.1% French ( ) @ 1.8
    17 95.7% Belgian ( ) + 4.3% Ket ( ) @ 1.84
    18 90.5% Belgian ( ) + 9.5% Saami_Kola ( ) @ 1.84
    19 90.4% Frisian ( ) + 9.6% Bashkir ( ) @ 1.85
    20 83.9% Swede_Saami ( ) + 16.1% Sardinian ( ) @ 1.85
    Last edited by JerryS.; 04-13-2019 at 04:51 PM.

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    Didn't let mine finish earlier.. had to update. Can someone explain secondary populations to me? They are always so bizarre on all of these tests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aafusc2988 View Post
    Didn't let mine finish earlier.. had to update. Can someone explain secondary populations to me? They are always so bizarre on all of these tests.
    For me it is actually good. Since I am technically mixed by 3 populations. But for most others its way to much eastern shifted.
    I guess you have no Iberian ancestors? Maybe French?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aafusc2988 View Post
    Didn't let mine finish earlier.. had to update. Can someone explain secondary populations to me? They are always so bizarre on all of these tests.
    the way I understand it, the primary groups is usually what you are the most of or such a combination that are closely related that the ethnicity is represented by one of several groups. the secondary is usually what is leftover that doesn't fit in with the primary. my primary groups show as English, Scottish or German and because they each have some similarities [shared traits] they are used back and forth for this column. my secondary is Italian so depending upon the calculator this can show as Italian or Greek or even some Jewish tribe because of the shared traits they have. well, that's the way I understand it anyway.

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