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    Little Scottish Cluster L21 Big-Y Tree

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    Updated link to the DF49 part of Alex's L21 Big-Y tree
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    It is much improved graphically. And 1000 Genomes kits have been integrated to the results.
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    What's the chance that the Little Scottish cluster R-L21 DF21>S424 were in fact the Picts, or a sizable component of the Irish Bronze Age ab-original invaders, along with some P312*.

    DF21 can lay claim to being the first native R1b in Ireland now, and they were in the Isles by 2050 BC. We know that S424 seems to have been in Scotland in the early Bronze ~2000 BC, if the branch of McKissick (kit M121928 is anything to go by, They never seem to have left. It would explain how they managed to expand so rapidly from around 300AD when the Romans could't make any headway into Scotland - they were already there!

    L21> L1335 also exploded at the same time, even more vigorously after thousands of years of being under the radar. By contrast the only early subbranch of L21> L1335 is Price from Wales., so one might presume the Scots Modal were late invaders.

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    This thread is confusing it's in DF49 forum seem's to be about DF49 ytree but is named "Little Scottish Cluster" which I thought had nothing to do with DF49, I'm confused.
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