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Thread: Waves of migration into South Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    What do you mean "significant"?
    As in they wouldn't look out of place among the mentioned groups like a SSA, Arabian, Egyptian, etc., would.

    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Can you post some SNPs?
    Just look at that:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_..._note-Wilde-26

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    overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European.
    Yeah, not out of place. Unlike modern day Indians short of select examples from select areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poldo View Post
    As in they wouldn't look out of place among the mentioned groups like a SSA, Arabian, Egyptian, etc., would.



    Just look at that:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_..._note-Wilde-26



    Yeah, not out of place. Unlike modern day Indians short of select examples from select areas.
    Somewhat similar to NW South asian groups, who live in heart of IVC site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poldo View Post
    As in they wouldn't look out of place among the mentioned groups like a SSA, Arabian, Egyptian, etc., would.



    Just look at that:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamna_..._note-Wilde-26

    "overwhelmingly dark-eyed (brown), dark-haired and had a skin colour that was moderately light, though somewhat darker than that of the average modern European"


    Yeah, not out of place. Unlike modern day Indians short of select examples from select areas.
    The thing you quoted looks like they are of same skin color as South central Asians. Not too dark and not too light either. Let the SNPs do the talking, not your BS. Btw, I don't know what PIE looked like, since nobody does except through statistical analysis of markers... and they seem to point to partially depigmented groups from the steppe.
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    Not sure what your agenda is, but the SNPs shows partially depigmented steppe population. What is known is that Yamnaya were dark haired and eyed and not as light as Europeans. Cluster them how you like, can't change those SNPs.

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    And you failed to show they would be significantly darker than a Mycenaean Greek.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jesus View Post
    Actually Fst wise they cluster closest to lezgins(NE Caucasus) and Uralic groups in Russia.
    jesus christ.

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    Plenty of Uralics live in Eastern Europe to Northern Europe. NE Caucasus is a borderline but their groups range in phenotype from Euro to Iranian.
    Last edited by Poldo; 12-02-2017 at 10:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poldo View Post
    There's nothing showing they were significantly darker than modern day Greeks, select Spaniards, or South Italians.
    They were certainly darker than those populations as per Mathieson et al. (2015). Light pigmentation we see in moderns was selected for over time, but PIE did not look like any modern living populations (Lazaridis also stated this in twitter) they only exist as admixture across Eurasia in various groups.

    Below : Here you can compare Yamnaya 'B' with moderns 'C' in terms pigmentation, lactose, and other alleles. Moderns are much lighter, very light infact, unlike Yamnaya.

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