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Thread: Waves of migration into South Asia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Generalissimo View Post
    Para-Munda =/= Munda.

    In theory, it's one of the languages that contributed to Munda.

    Witzel:
    "The prefixes of the RV substrate are, however, close to, an in part even identical with those of Proto-Munda; taking my clue from Kuiper (1962: 51,102; cf. now Zide MT II: 96), I will therefore call this substrate language Para-Munda for the time being ...
    Para-Munda (viz. directly from Austro-Asiatic) ... Of special interest for the RV substrate are the prefixes ka-, ki-, kŻı-, ku-, ke-, which relate to persons and animals (Pinnow 1959: 11; cf. p. 265 §341a) and which can be compared, in the rest of Austro-Asiatic, to the ‘article’ of Khasi"
    http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc...=rep1&type=pdf

    Witzel divides the Rg Ved into three parts - early, middle, late - and finds no Dravidian in the early, but does find the AA type. He also places the early part of the Rg in the modern Punjab area, which then conflicts with the known geographical extent of the AA languages. If Witzel is to be believed, AA potentially extended from Sumer to the south-east of China.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    In Punjabi the word for boy is Munda, I have no idea about the origin of this word though.
    munDā - tribe of eastern India, bald headed
    https://books.google.com/books?id=_kWROaer5UsC&pg=PA389

    See also for girl in Punjabi - kuri
    And also in Mundari "kuri 'girl'" - https://books.google.com/books?id=6GzxBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA169

    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    No Munda ancestry, but Mundas are 50% of the population.
    And kuris are the rest!

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Not that ignorant haha. Btw does Witzel still subscribe to IVC being Munda or RigVeda having Munda substrate? And do any other linguists say the same?
    I think so, and quite a few others do too.

    From a parallel, script point of view we had Pathak and Verma's Echoes of Indus Valley.
    "Presentation of the thesis that scriptography used by the tribal people of Kahuadhab village, Santhal Paraganas, Bihar, is similar to that of Indus script and their culture has origin in Indus civilization."
    https://franklin.library.upenn.edu/c...15466163503681

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    munDā - tribe of eastern India, bald headed
    https://books.google.com/books?id=_kWROaer5UsC&pg=PA389

    See also for girl in Punjabi - kuri
    And also in Mundari "kuri 'girl'" - https://books.google.com/books?id=6GzxBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA169



    And kuris are the rest!
    Lol, 100% then!

    Seriously, though, is Punjabi "kuri" cognate to Punjabi "chorri"? We also use "chohri" (but for daughters).

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Lol, 100% then!

    Seriously, though, is Punjabi "kuri" cognate to Punjabi "chorri"? We also use "chohri" (but for daughters).
    I was about to say this, but in some cases where like 'chorri' is used like shouting out to someone in a tone lol by calling someone (in my area ive heard my relatives used this and it stays in my head i can just imagine them shouting out lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amber29 View Post
    I was about to say this, but in some cases where like 'chorri' is used like shouting out to someone in a tone lol by calling someone (in my area ive heard my relatives used this and it stays in my head i can just imagine them shouting out lol)
    Yes chori is used for girl in the UP, Rajasthan, Haryana areas too.
    As to the etymology it could be from gauri or kauri (kumari) or korri.
    See also:
    https://books.google.com/books?id=nH1HBxdA1UIC&pg=PA89

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    Quote Originally Posted by poi View Post
    Lol, 100% then!

    Seriously, though, is Punjabi "kuri" cognate to Punjabi "chorri"? We also use "chohri" (but for daughters).

    In Saraiki we use chohri for girl and chuharh for boy; dhi is also girl, but I guess mostly for daughters.
    I feel like there is another word, but it's not coming to my head right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    munDā - tribe of eastern India, bald headed
    https://books.google.com/books?id=_kWROaer5UsC&pg=PA389

    See also for girl in Punjabi - kuri
    And also in Mundari "kuri 'girl'" - https://books.google.com/books?id=6GzxBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA169



    And kuris are the rest!
    Kurhi is used for Girl but when it comes to daughter the word is Dhee which in fact is close to the word daughter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parasar View Post
    Yes chori is used for girl in the UP, Rajasthan, Haryana areas too.
    As to the etymology it could be from gauri or kauri (kumari) or korri.
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    https://books.google.com/books?id=nH1HBxdA1UIC&pg=PA89
    Probably a short for Kumari, just like Kaur word is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jatt1 View Post
    Kurhi is used for Girl but when it comes to daughter the word is Dhee which in fact is close to the word daughter.
    We use chohri for daughter in every case and the word duhitr I think is really, really, formal and only used, if at all, by pandits during the namakaran ceremony. Also, putri is also reserved for formal events and rarely used. Chohri is definitely the most casual and the most endearing word. Only more endearing would be kali (but only if called by close relatives lol).

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