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    Quote Originally Posted by v27 View Post
    Erzya is genetically similar to Balts too
    Yes. Erzya is the Baltic people with a minor admixture of Finno-Ugric peoples like the Komi people. Erzya is closer to the Poles than to any Finno-Ugrians.

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    For example, K12b of Russian persone not from South (from Myshkin area, Yaroslavl oblast). Same thing:


    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 57.91
    2 Atlantic_Med 21.33
    3 Caucasus 9
    4 Siberian 3.74
    5 Gedrosia 3.43
    6 East_Asian 1.58
    7 Northwest_African 1.25
    8 South_Asian 0.98
    9 Southwest_Asian 0.75
    10 East_African 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Polish (Dodecad) 7.75
    2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 9.21
    3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 10.29
    4 Russian (Dodecad) 10.86
    5 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 11.86
    6 Russian (HGDP) 11.88
    7 Belorussian (Behar) 12.27
    8 Russian_B (Behar) 12.47
    9 Hungarians (Behar) 12.79
    10 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.02
    11 German (Dodecad) 15.25
    12 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 17.01
    13 Norwegian (Dodecad) 17.06
    14 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 17.93
    15 Finnish (Dodecad) 19.69
    16 Lithuanians (Behar) 19.86
    17 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.72
    18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.02
    19 Chuvashs (Behar) 22.87
    20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.23

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    Finno-Ugric hydronyms
    1) are controversial. For example, hydronim Moscow. The most common hypothesis is that this hydronym is Finno-Ugric. However, in the first place, Finno-Ugric residents have never lived in Moscow (confirms archeology). Secondly, there are many rivers called Moscow: in Poland and in Ukraine, and even in Germany. Many other hydronyms are also controversial.
    2) Finno-Ugric hydronyms are often secondary. They are called small rivers. The big rivers are called Baltic names. That is, the Finns came later Balts and assimilated them.
    3) No one denies the Finnish substrate. Just look at MyOrigin. Russians have a lot of Finnish and Scandinavian cousins. Sometimes it seems that the Winter War with Finland was fratricidal.
    4) The strong Finnish substrate, which had a crucial effect on autosomes, was only in the northeast and east. In the northeast there are bad weather conditions, poor conditions for farming. Slavs reluctantly settled there. Therefore, the Russians of the East were more likely descendants of the Finns, who switched to Russian with a mixture of Slavs. But these Russians make up no more than 10% of all Russians.
    5) The Balt impurity is much more weighty among Russians. If we consider the Poles to be the standard of the Slavs, then the Russians, together with the Belarusians and the eastern Ukrainians, occupy an intermediate place between the Poles and the Balts. Northern Russians have a slight lurch deviated the Finns.
    No, the smaller rivers have slavic names and the big river mostly Finno-Ugrian names and some baltic in the most western regions of Russia. Also Galindian Balts arrived there after Finno-Ugrians and probably during the migration period.




    Nonsense. At the Central Russian may not be so much of the Baltic Finns. This Russian obviously has Northern roots near the Baltic-Finnish village. Most likely this Russian from Kargopol. You're confusing the Volga Finns similar to Erzya and the Baltic Finns are similar to Suomi. Erzya and Karelians are different Finns with nothing in common.

    I am the Central Russian and here is my data K12b:

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Polish (Dodecad) 6.78
    2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 7.64
    3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 8.3
    4 Russian (Dodecad) 9.61
    5 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 10.55
    6 Belorussian (Behar) 10.76
    7 Russian_B (Behar) 10.86
    8 Russian (HGDP) 11.51

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 68.4% Russian_B (Behar) + 31.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.13
    2 60.7% Mordovians (Yunusbayev) + 39.3% German (Dodecad) @ 2.25
    3 68.4% Russian_B (Behar) + 31.6% Dutch (Dodecad) @ 2.5
    4 71.2% Russian_B (Behar) + 28.8% Kent (1000Genomes) @ 2.55
    5 63.1% Russian (Dodecad) + 36.9% German (Dodecad) @ 2.56
    6 60% Russian_B (Behar) + 40% German (Dodecad) @ 2.57
    7 83.6% Russian (Dodecad) + 16.4% Valencia (1000Genomes) @ 2.59
    8 76.9% Russian (Dodecad) + 23.1% French (HGDP) @ 2.6
    9 70.7% Russian_B (Behar) + 29.3% CEU30 (1000Genomes) @ 2.61
    10 73% Russian_B (Behar) + 27% Cornwall (1000Genomes) @ 2.62
    11 70.9% Russian_B (Behar) + 29.1% English (Dodecad) @ 2.63
    12 84% Russian (Dodecad) + 16% Andalucia (1000Genomes) @ 2.64
    13 82.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 17.6% Cataluna (1000Genomes) @ 2.67
    14 83% Russian (Dodecad) + 17% Spaniards (Behar) @ 2.69
    15 71.4% Russian (Dodecad) + 28.6% Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) @ 2.71
    16 83.9% Russian (Dodecad) + 16.1% Aragon (1000Genomes) @ 2.75
    17 72.8% Russian_B (Behar) + 27.2% British (Dodecad) @ 2.78
    18 83.3% Russian (Dodecad) + 16.7% Cantabria (1000Genomes) @ 2.81
    19 71.6% Russian_B (Behar) + 28.4% Argyll (1000Genomes) @ 2.81
    20 83.7% Russian (Dodecad) + 16.3% Castilla_La_Mancha (1000Genomes) @ 2.81

    You have significant Ukrainian ancestry and this is another calculator.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    No, the smaller rivers have slavic names and the big river mostly Finno-Ugrian names and some baltic in the most western regions of Russia. Also Galindian Balts arrived there after Finno-Ugrians and probably during the migration period.







    You have significant Ukrainian ancestry and this is another calculator.
    My Ukrainian ancestry (1/4) is Belgorod Ukrainians who lived in Russia for 300 years. These people are genetically different from Ukrainians and closer to Southern Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coldmountains View Post
    You have significant Ukrainian ancestry and this is another calculator.
    Look at my post (two posts above) My wife's granny don't have any Ukrainian ancestry. All of her ancestors for many hundreds years live in small piece of land northward(!) from Volga river in Yaroslavl oblast.

    And results are same...

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    Quote Originally Posted by v27 View Post
    For example, K12b of Russian persone not from South (from Myshkin area, Yaroslavl oblast). Same thing:


    # Population Percent
    1 North_European 57.91
    2 Atlantic_Med 21.33
    3 Caucasus 9
    4 Siberian 3.74
    5 Gedrosia 3.43
    6 East_Asian 1.58
    7 Northwest_African 1.25
    8 South_Asian 0.98
    9 Southwest_Asian 0.75
    10 East_African 0.03

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Polish (Dodecad) 7.75
    2 Mixed_Slav (Dodecad) 9.21
    3 Ukranians (Yunusbayev) 10.29
    4 Russian (Dodecad) 10.86
    5 Mordovians (Yunusbayev) 11.86
    6 Russian (HGDP) 11.88
    7 Belorussian (Behar) 12.27
    8 Russian_B (Behar) 12.47
    9 Hungarians (Behar) 12.79
    10 Swedish (Dodecad) 14.02
    11 German (Dodecad) 15.25
    12 Lithuanian (Dodecad) 17.01
    13 Norwegian (Dodecad) 17.06
    14 FIN30 (1000Genomes) 17.93
    15 Finnish (Dodecad) 19.69
    16 Lithuanians (Behar) 19.86
    17 Dutch (Dodecad) 21.72
    18 Mixed_Germanic (Dodecad) 22.02
    19 Chuvashs (Behar) 22.87
    20 CEU30 (1000Genomes) 24.23
    Are these your wife's? The person is over 5% mongoloid here. I'm waiting for my brother-in-law's results (zyat'). He is 50% from Yaroslavl oblast (Danilov district in particular) and the other 50% from Ryazan (Sapozhok district) and Kaluga (Yukhnov district) oblast. In a couple of weeks I'll see what his results are like.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    My Ukrainian ancestry (1/4) is Belgorod Ukrainians who lived in Russia for 300 years. These people are genetically different from Ukrainians and closer to Southern Russian.
    Belgorod has never been part of the country of Ukraine, so you can count it as Russian.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volat View Post
    Typical Russian, who's afraid showing his or her results from DNA.Land and MyHeritage. Are you afraid to show your results? To confirm to be a Slav.
    Yes, I am a typical central Russian, who in the opinion of Belarusian and Ukrainian nationalists are afraid of something. Here is my
    MyHeritage.

    Are you satisfied? Show your results?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leto View Post
    Are these your wife's? The person is over 5% mongoloid here. I'm waiting for my brother-in-law's results (zyat'). He is 50% from Yaroslavl oblast (Danilov district in particular) and the other 50% from Ryazan (Sapozhok district) and Kaluga (Yukhnov district) oblast. In a couple of weeks I'll see what his results are like.
    Mongols are not there. You are obsessed with your Mongolian origin. Mongols - an anthropological term. In some West European people, I meet North Africa or other exotic ingredients. No one calls them Negroids. These are ancient impurities of unknown anthropological origin. Moreover, the percentages in other calculators are different.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexRus View Post
    These are ancient impurities
    "Impurities"? That's an unfortunate term
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