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    I'm not aware of any French in my ancestry, but my mix(Latino, Norway, England, Switzerland, Germany) makes me look like a French-man with a little native American and west African.

    I'm practically a 20th century recreation of French. My various 20th century European ancestors are similar to the bronze age people who mixed to create French.

    Ancient genomes have revealed that all the pieces that makeup the gene pool of west Europe today first started to mix with each other in the bronze age(not very long ago).

    Me and French indirectly received the same ratio of ancestry from the same bronze age populations.

    North Atlantic 41.25

    Baltic 19.58
    West Med 17.82
    East Med 10.68
    West Asian 3.89
    South Asian 1.45
    Red Sea 0.48
    Northeast African 0
    Oceanian 0.89
    Amerindian
    2.67
    Sub Saharan 1.22
    Siberian 0.07
    East Asian 0

    97.7%French+2.3%Karitiana 3.77
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    Here is something that has been bugging me for a while.

    My paternal grandmother who has 7/16 confirmed Great-Great Grandparents born in the Canary Islands (4-in Santa Cruz de Tenerife, 2-Las Palmas de Gran Canaria, and 1 just says the Canary Islands). Her 23andme scores shows the following nonEuropean components in her:

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    5.2% East Asian & Native American

    4.6% Native American

    0.7% Broadly East Asian & Native American


    2.6% Middle Eastern & North African

    2.2% North African

    0.4% Broadly Middle Eastern & North African


    1.6% Sub-Saharan African


    1.5% West African

    0.1% Broadly Sub-Saharan African


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    Dr.McDonalds gave her the following breakdown:

    Most likely fit is 80.4% (+- 3.1%) Europe (all Western Europe)

    and 3.9% (+- 0.5%) America (various subcontinents)

    and 15.7% (+- 3.5%) Mideast (all North Africa)

    But he also mentioned that the Native American was closer to 5% than to 4%.

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    Now on K13 she gets the following scores:

    Admix Results (sorted):


    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 33.46
    2 West_Med 26.34
    3 East_Med 13.41
    4 Baltic 8.44
    5 Amerindian 4.11
    6 West_Asian 4.08
    7 Sub-Saharan 3.65
    8 Red_Sea 2.83
    9 Northeast_African 2
    10 Siberian 1.22
    11 Oceanian 0.26
    12 East_Asian 0.21

    If add up the Amerindian 4.11%, Siberian 1.22% Oceanian 0.26% and East Asian 0.21% we get 5.8%, which is not too far from her 5.2% East Asian/Native American from 23andme. Yet in here her Sub-Saharan African score here(3.65%) is more than twice what it is in 23andme (1.6%), and McDonalds didn't give her any, instead gave her a substantial amount of North African, which is expected given her background. Even after adding up all the African in 23andme 2.6% North African/Middle Eastern and 1.6% Sub-Saharan one gets 4.2%, yet in here she is 5.65% between North East African(2.00%) and SubSaharan(3.65%). Yet when I run her on a calculator that includes North African like K36 she gets the following scores:

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    Amerindian 3.53%
    Arabian -
    Armenian 1.53%
    Basque 5.11%
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro 3.28%
    East_African -
    East_Asian 0.28%
    East_Balkan 0.91%
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro -
    East_Med 5.13%
    Eastern_Euro 2.42%
    Fennoscandian 4.53%
    French 6.22%
    Iberian 23.39%
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 8.61%
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern 4.02%
    North_African 7.71%
    North_Atlantic 6.15%
    North_Caucasian -
    North_Sea 7.21%
    Northeast_African 1.41%
    Oceanian -
    Omotic 0.37%
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African 1.83%
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 6.34%

    1.83% West African+0.37% Omotic+1.41% Northeast African=3.61% Sub-Saharan African, and 7.71% North African.

    I'm wondering if her African score varies so much between 23andme and Eurogenes K13 because she has 1.6% Sub-Saharan African and 2.6% North African when compared to modern day Iberians, but since some Iberians do score both North African and Sub-Saharan African in Eurogenes, then that's why her score are inflated. This would make sense, since 23andme I would assume uses only Iberians from the Iberian Peninsula and not of Canary Islanders, because the people from the Canary Islands that I'm sharing with all have Sub-Saharan African in the order of 1.3%-3.6% per 23andme, and North African in the order of 4.4%-6.9%. Let me know what you guys think.
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    For completion here is my Paternal grandmother's Oracle results:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 94.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.5% North_Amerindian @ 4.31
    2 95.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.9% Mayan @ 4.49
    3 95.3% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.7% Pima @ 4.56
    4 93.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 6.5% East_Greenlander @ 4.6
    5 95.9% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.1% Karitiana @ 4.68
    6 93% Spanish_Extremadura + 7% West_Greenlander @ 4.71
    7 93.4% Spanish_Andalucia + 6.6% North_Amerindian @ 4.93
    8 94.1% Spanish_Andalucia + 5.9% Mayan @ 5.1
    9 94.3% Spanish_Andalucia + 5.7% Pima @ 5.13
    10 94.9% Spanish_Andalucia + 5.1% Karitiana @ 5.28
    11 91.5% Spanish_Andalucia + 8.5% West_Greenlander @ 5.38
    12 95.5% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.5% Bantu_N.E. @ 5.4
    13 94.4% Portuguese + 5.6% North_Amerindian @ 5.4
    14 95.4% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.6% Mbuti_Pygmy @ 5.41
    15 94.7% Spanish_Extremadura + 5.3% Chukchi @ 5.41
    16 94.9% Portuguese + 5.1% Mayan @ 5.42
    17 95.2% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.8% San @ 5.42
    18 95.6% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.4% Luhya @ 5.43
    19 95.8% Spanish_Extremadura + 4.2% Biaka_Pygmy @ 5.46
    20 96.1% Spanish_Extremadura + 3.9% Bantu_S.E. @ 5.5

    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Extremadura @ 6.937407
    2 Portuguese @ 7.839099
    3 Spanish_Andalucia @ 8.235271
    4 Spanish_Murcia @ 8.487556
    5 Spanish_Galicia @ 8.647807
    6 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 9.519034
    7 Spanish_Valencia @ 9.662611
    8 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 9.692271
    9 North_Italian @ 9.825483
    10 Spanish_Cataluna @ 10.404212
    11 Spanish_Cantabria @ 11.293381
    12 Spanish_Aragon @ 12.632421
    13 Southwest_French @ 13.501537
    14 Tuscan @ 15.223867
    15 French @ 15.948436
    16 West_Sicilian @ 21.800529
    17 West_German @ 22.057985
    18 South_Dutch @ 22.361317
    19 Italian_Abruzzo @ 22.744127
    20 Romanian @ 22.992754

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_Italian +50% Spanish_Extremadura @ 6.840504


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% French_Basque +25% Romanian +25% Tunisian @ 5.040092


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Bulgarian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Tunisian @ 4.992181
    2 French_Basque + French_Basque + Romanian + Tunisian @ 5.040092
    3 Algerian + Bulgarian + French_Basque + French_Basque @ 5.110435
    4 Bulgarian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber @ 5.200157
    5 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.215613
    6 Algerian + French_Basque + French_Basque + Romanian @ 5.274989
    7 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + West_German @ 5.342832
    8 French + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian @ 5.356366
    9 French_Basque + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian @ 5.363987
    10 Algerian + French_Basque + Romanian + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.392633
    11 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.413750
    12 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + North_Italian + South_Dutch @ 5.432806
    13 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Southwest_French @ 5.465751
    14 Bulgarian + French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.477068
    15 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Serbian + Spanish_Aragon @ 5.490904
    16 French_Basque + Mozabite_Berber + Romanian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.495447
    17 French_Basque + Spanish_Andalucia + Tunisian + West_German @ 5.539230
    18 Algerian + French_Basque + Romanian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.540387
    19 Algerian + French_Basque + Romanian + Southwest_French @ 5.564721
    20 French + Mozabite_Berber + Southwest_French + Spanish_Andalucia @ 5.568510

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    J Man is right. it is the most accurate for me:

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 41.83
    2 West_Med 26.16
    3 East_Med 14.67
    4 Baltic 12.50
    5 West_Asian 1.54
    6 Red_Sea 1.43




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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.560217
    2 Spanish_Valencia @ 2.999389
    3 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.646078
    4 Spanish_Murcia @ 4.201438
    5 Portuguese @ 4.577113
    6 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 5.090661
    7 Spanish_Galicia @ 5.632283
    8 Spanish_Cantabria @ 5.662181
    9 Spanish_Extremadura @ 5.858706
    10 Spanish_Andalucia @ 6.511233
    11 Spanish_Aragon @ 6.645396
    12 Southwest_French @ 7.481587
    13 French @ 10.216812
    14 North_Italian @ 12.643009
    15 South_Dutch @ 16.928951
    16 West_German @ 17.266508
    17 Tuscan @ 19.684229
    18 French_Basque @ 19.756128
    19 Southeast_English @ 21.081686
    20 Southwest_English @ 21.779182

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Cataluna +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.201773


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Spanish_Cataluna +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.201773


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.103883
    2 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.201773
    3 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.235983
    4 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.282635
    5 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.340690
    6 French + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.379569
    7 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.396729
    8 French + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.409250
    9 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.445598
    10 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.490546
    11 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.494975
    12 French + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.497229
    13 French + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.529400
    14 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.533741
    15 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.542296
    16 French + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.554846
    17 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.560217
    18 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.578112
    19 Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.621267
    20 Portuguese + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.665639



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    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.04
    2 Baltic 25.27
    3 West_Med 9.81
    4 West_Asian 7.25
    5 East_Med 1.77
    6 Red_Sea 1.5
    7 Amerindian 1.38
    8 Siberian 0.75
    9 Oceanian 0.24

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 North_Dutch 3.04
    2 Irish 3.1
    3 Norwegian 3.6
    4 West_Scottish 3.61
    5 Orcadian 3.82
    6 Danish 3.86
    7 North_German 5.45
    8 Southeast_English 6.09
    9 Southwest_English 6.26
    10 Swedish 6.5
    11 South_Dutch 10.22
    12 West_German 11.04
    13 North_Swedish 12.82
    14 Austrian 15.29
    15 East_German 15.45
    16 French 15.89
    17 Hungarian 19.56
    18 Southwest_Finnish 21.09
    19 Spanish_Cataluna 23.25
    20 South_Polish 24.17

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 57.1% Irish + 42.9% Norwegian @ 2.28
    2 50.1% Norwegian + 49.9% West_Scottish @ 2.33
    3 77.2% Irish + 22.8% Swedish @ 2.54
    4 51.6% North_Dutch + 48.4% Irish @ 2.56
    5 70.2% West_Scottish + 29.8% Swedish @ 2.58
    6 61.6% North_Dutch + 38.4% West_Scottish @ 2.6
    7 88.2% Irish + 11.8% North_Swedish @ 2.61
    8 94.4% Irish + 5.6% Finnish @ 2.67
    9 94.5% Irish + 5.5% La_Brana-1 @ 2.68
    10 93.4% Irish + 6.6% Southwest_Finnish @ 2.72
    11 95.3% Irish + 4.7% East_Finnish @ 2.72
    12 76.2% Irish + 23.8% North_German @ 2.72
    13 66.7% West_Scottish + 33.3% North_German @ 2.74
    14 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Chuvash @ 2.74
    15 84.2% West_Scottish + 15.8% North_Swedish @ 2.75
    16 65.5% Irish + 34.5% Danish @ 2.75
    17 92% West_Scottish + 8% Finnish @ 2.77
    18 97.1% Irish + 2.9% Mari @ 2.78
    19 95.4% Irish + 4.6% Estonian @ 2.79
    20 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Erzya @ 2.8


    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Norwegian @ 2.522953


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Norwegian +25% Norwegian @ 2.522953


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.519424
    2 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.522953
    3 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.540311
    4 Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.548502
    5 Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.564251
    6 North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.622005
    7 North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.648387
    8 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.664680
    9 Irish + North_German + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.680890
    10 Danish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 2.683445
    11 Danish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.695799
    12 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.721051
    13 North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.729033
    14 Danish + Norwegian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.747781
    15 Irish + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.753577
    16 Irish + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.764748
    17 Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.766720
    18 North_Dutch + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.767802
    19 Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.767981
    20 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.775764

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 50.42
    2 Baltic 23.81
    3 West_Med 12.96
    4 West_Asian 8.32
    5 South_Asian 2.1
    6 Amerindian 1.01
    7 East_Med 0.49
    8 Siberian 0.39
    9 Red_Sea 0.29
    10 Oceanian 0.15
    11 Northeast_African 0.07

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 2.76
    2 Orcadian 3.73
    3 West_Scottish 3.76
    4 North_Dutch 4.54
    5 Southwest_English 4.8
    6 Danish 4.94
    7 Southeast_English 5.39
    8 Norwegian 5.93
    9 North_German 6.02
    10 Swedish 8.14
    11 South_Dutch 8.68
    12 West_German 9.74
    13 French 14.08
    14 North_Swedish 14.34
    15 Austrian 14.51
    16 East_German 14.7
    17 Hungarian 19.12
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 21.08
    19 Southwest_French 21.79
    20 Southwest_Finnish 22.21

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Kalash @ 1.5
    2 96.6% Irish + 3.4% Balochi @ 1.56
    3 96.7% Irish + 3.3% Brahui @ 1.58
    4 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Burusho @ 1.59
    5 96% Irish + 4% Afghan_Pashtun @ 1.63
    6 96.5% Irish + 3.5% Pathan @ 1.66
    7 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Punjabi_Jat @ 1.69
    8 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Sindhi @ 1.71
    9 95.7% Irish + 4.3% Tadjik @ 1.71
    10 96.8% Irish + 3.2% Makrani @ 1.72
    11 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Afghan_Tadjik @ 1.77
    12 96.1% Irish + 3.9% Kabardin @ 1.79
    13 96.3% Irish + 3.7% Ossetian @ 1.8
    14 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Balkar @ 1.81
    15 96.3% Irish + 3.7% North_Ossetian @ 1.81
    16 96% Irish + 4% Chechen @ 1.82
    17 95.9% Irish + 4.1% Tabassaran @ 1.82
    18 96.4% Irish + 3.6% Adygei @ 1.86
    19 96.2% Irish + 3.8% Lezgin @ 1.89
    20 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Gujarati @ 1.91

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 3.143407


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% North_German @ 3.119535


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.119535
    2 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.143407
    3 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.258338
    4 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.268622
    5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.313056
    6 Danish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.342844
    7 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.361933
    8 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.418522
    9 Irish + Irish + North_German + Orcadian @ 3.421207
    10 Irish + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.421952
    11 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.440643
    12 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.449418
    13 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.455079
    14 Danish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.521304
    15 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_German @ 3.539776
    16 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.549337
    17 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.563988
    18 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southeast_English @ 3.565748
    19 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 3.565993
    20 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.566914

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    Some of the mixed mode population sharing are quite strange on these. My brother is very close to Hinxton 4 on the K13. My daughter gets some Amerindian and Greenlander on this which is interesting but we are all Irish so I guess this is picking up something ancient?

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    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 51.51
    2 Baltic 24.22
    3 West_Med 12.51
    4 West_Asian 8.6
    5 South_Asian 1.63
    6 Amerindian 1
    7 East_Asian 0.3
    8 Sub-Saharan 0.19
    9 Red_Sea 0.02
    10 East_Med 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Irish 2.61
    2 West_Scottish 3.62
    3 Orcadian 4.03
    4 North_Dutch 4.63
    5 Danish 5.12
    6 Southwest_English 5.23
    7 Norwegian 5.6
    8 Southeast_English 5.99
    9 North_German 6.48
    10 Swedish 8.06
    11 South_Dutch 9.78
    12 West_German 10.81
    13 North_Swedish 14.46
    14 French 15.18
    15 Austrian 15.38
    16 East_German 15.49
    17 Hungarian 19.97
    18 Spanish_Cataluna 22.09
    19 Southwest_Finnish 22.44
    20 Southwest_French 22.75

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Kalash @ 2.03
    2 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Balochi @ 2.05
    3 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Brahui @ 2.07
    4 97% Irish + 3% Tabassaran @ 2.11
    5 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Burusho @ 2.14
    6 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Afghan_Pashtun @ 2.14
    7 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Chechen @ 2.15
    8 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Punjabi_Jat @ 2.17
    9 97.3% Irish + 2.7% Lezgin @ 2.17
    10 97.5% Irish + 2.5% North_Ossetian @ 2.18
    11 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Makrani @ 2.18
    12 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Ossetian @ 2.18
    13 97.4% Irish + 2.6% Kabardin @ 2.19
    14 97.7% Irish + 2.3% Pathan @ 2.19
    15 97.9% Irish + 2.1% Sindhi @ 2.2
    16 97.2% Irish + 2.8% Tadjik @ 2.2
    17 97.5% Irish + 2.5% Balkar @ 2.21
    18 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Adygei @ 2.23
    19 97.6% Irish + 2.4% Afghan_Tadjik @ 2.27
    20 98.1% Irish + 1.9% Abhkasian @ 2.27

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Irish @ 2.953441


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Irish +25% Irish @ 2.953441


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 2.953441
    2 Irish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.223475
    3 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_Dutch @ 3.278868
    4 Irish + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 3.295299
    5 Irish + Irish + Irish + Orcadian @ 3.296951
    6 Danish + Irish + Irish + Irish @ 3.309850
    7 Irish + Irish + Irish + Norwegian @ 3.312600
    8 Irish + Irish + North_German + West_Scottish @ 3.415542
    9 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.468552
    10 Irish + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.503300
    11 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.503497
    12 Irish + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 3.507485
    13 Danish + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.507721
    14 Irish + Irish + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 3.550465
    15 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Southwest_English @ 3.573220
    16 Irish + North_German + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.577136
    17 Irish + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 3.584926
    18 Irish + Irish + North_Dutch + Orcadian @ 3.669406
    19 Irish + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 3.675050
    20 Irish + Irish + Norwegian + Orcadian @ 3.688866

    Daughter

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 52.45
    2 Baltic 21.08
    3 West_Med 14.89
    4 West_Asian 5.98
    5 East_Med 1.74
    6 Amerindian 1.42
    7 Red_Sea 0.87
    8 Siberian 0.6
    9 South_Asian 0.57
    10 Oceanian 0.38
    11 Northeast_African 0.01

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 Southwest_English 2.3
    2 West_Scottish 3.28
    3 Irish 3.6
    4 Orcadian 4.03
    5 Southeast_English 4.37
    6 North_Dutch 6.36
    7 Danish 7.12
    8 Norwegian 8.18
    9 South_Dutch 8.59
    10 North_German 8.77
    11 West_German 10.11
    12 Swedish 10.88
    13 French 12.66
    14 Austrian 16.43
    15 East_German 16.93
    16 North_Swedish 17.03
    17 Spanish_Cataluna 18.89
    18 Southwest_French 19.37
    19 Spanish_Cantabria 19.92
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon 19.97

    Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

    # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
    1 87.6% Irish + 12.4% French_Basque @ 1.29
    2 88.9% West_Scottish + 11.1% French_Basque @ 1.45
    3 88.5% West_Scottish + 11.5% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.75
    4 87.5% West_Scottish + 12.5% Southwest_French @ 1.79
    5 87.9% West_Scottish + 12.1% Spanish_Cantabria @ 1.82
    6 98.9% Southwest_English + 1.1% Karitiana @ 1.86
    7 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% North_Amerindian @ 1.87
    8 98.8% Southwest_English + 1.2% Pima @ 1.87
    9 98.8% Southwest_English + 1.2% Mayan @ 1.88
    10 88.8% West_Scottish + 11.2% Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 1.88
    11 87.6% Irish + 12.4% Spanish_Aragon @ 1.93
    12 94.9% West_Scottish + 5.1% Sardinian @ 1.94
    13 89.8% West_Scottish + 10.2% Spanish_Andalucia @ 1.94
    14 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% East_Greenlander @ 2.01
    15 98.7% Southwest_English + 1.3% West_Greenlander @ 2.07
    16 89.5% West_Scottish + 10.5% Spanish_Valencia @ 2.1
    17 89.8% West_Scottish + 10.2% Spanish_Extremadura @ 2.11
    18 89.5% West_Scottish + 10.5% Spanish_Murcia @ 2.12
    19 88.2% West_Scottish + 11.8% Spanish_Cataluna @ 2.12
    20 88.8% West_Scottish + 11.2% Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 2.12

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 2.324805


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 2.214156


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.214156
    2 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.261267
    3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.324805
    4 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.463472
    5 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.506353
    6 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.548081
    7 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.604744
    8 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.694502
    9 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.761277
    10 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.775503
    11 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.817932
    12 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.827216
    13 French_Basque + Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.946300
    14 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.954555
    15 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.965321
    16 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 2.968451
    17 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.002059
    18 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.031642
    19 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.043941
    20 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.048904
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  13. #17
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    United States Gadsden Devon Germany Bayern Northern Ireland Germany Palatinate Wales
    For comparisons sake, here is a list of Western European results by the country. I'm pretty partial to the North German sample. I found these on another genetic genealogy site, so take with a grain of salt.

     

    Austrian

    North Atlantic - 37.21
    Baltic - 29.87
    West Med - 14.58
    West Asian - 7.23
    East Med - 8.23
    Red Sea - 1.56
    South Asian - 0.78
    East Asian - 0.07
    Siberian - 0.16
    Amerindian - 0.12
    Oceanian - 0.11
    North-East African - 0.07
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.00


    Danish

    North Atlantic - 50.04
    Baltic - 26.61
    West Med - 10.43
    West Asian - 5.69
    East Med - 3.61
    Red Sea - 0.25
    South Asian - 1.86
    East Asian - 0.20
    Siberian - 0.27
    Amerindian - 0.36
    Oceanian - 0.20
    North-East African - 0.36
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.10


    East_Finnish

    North Atlantic - 30.71
    Baltic - 49.54
    West Med - 4.49
    West Asian - 1.63
    East Med - 0.22
    Red Sea - 0.82
    South Asian - 1.48
    East Asian - 0.70
    Siberian - 8.59
    Amerindian - 0.71
    Oceanian - 0.69
    North-East African - 0.05
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.37

    East_German

    North Atlantic - 37.34
    Baltic - 32.18
    West Med - 14.57
    West Asian - 6.15
    East Med - 6.42
    Red Sea - 0.96
    South Asian - 1.46
    East Asian - 0.02
    Siberian - 0.19
    Amerindian - 0.38
    Oceanian - 0.05
    North-East African - 0.13
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.14

    Finnish

    North Atlantic - 34.17
    Baltic - 47.69
    West Med - 4.43
    West Asian - 2.21
    East Med - 0.65
    Red Sea - 0.42
    South Asian - 0.53
    East Asian - 0.96
    Siberian - 6.48
    Amerindian - 0.90
    Oceanian - 0.81
    North-East African - 0.50
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.26

    French

    North Atlantic - 42.60
    Baltic - 17.49
    West Med - 19.5
    West Asian - 4.96
    East Med - 10.33
    Red Sea - 2.82
    South Asian - 1.08
    East Asian - 0.15
    Siberian - 0.27
    Amerindian - 0.28
    Oceanian - 0.23
    North-East African - 0.07
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.12

    French_Basque

    North Atlantic - 52.62
    Baltic - 6.10
    West Med - 35.86
    West Asian - 0.35
    East Med - 3.07
    Red Sea - 0.31
    South Asian - 0.32
    East Asian - 0.65
    Siberian - 0.06
    Amerindian - 0.08
    Oceanian - 0.30
    North-East African - 0.22
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.04

    Irish

    North Atlantic - 52.23
    Baltic - 24.02
    West Med - 12.39
    West Asian - 6.32
    East Med - 1.41
    Red Sea - 0.82
    South Asian - 1.09
    East Asian - 0.09
    Siberian - 0.03
    Amerindian - 0.99
    Oceanian - 0.33
    North-East African - 0.18
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.10

    North_Dutch

    North Atlantic - 50.45
    Baltic - 26.44
    West Med - 11.06
    West Asian - 5.9
    East Med - 3.16
    Red Sea - 0.86
    South Asian - 0.60
    East Asian - 0.11
    Siberian - 0.16
    Amerindian - 0.50
    Oceanian - 0.52
    North-East African - 0.15
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.10

    North_German

    North Atlantic - 47.17
    Baltic - 27.37
    West Med - 10.23
    West Asian - 7.12
    East Med - 4.24
    Red Sea - 0.91
    South Asian - 1.46
    East Asian - 0.04
    Siberian - 0.12
    Amerindian - 0.43
    Oceanian - 0.28
    North-East African - 0.37
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.17

    North_Swedish

    North Atlantic - 44.52
    Baltic - 36.30
    West Med - 7.35
    West Asian - 3.16
    East Med - 1.31
    Red Sea - 0.79
    South Asian - 0.85
    East Asian - 0.77
    Siberian - 3.17
    Amerindian - 0.70
    Oceanian - 0.88
    North-East African - 0.17
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.03

    Norwegian

    North Atlantic - 51.15
    Baltic - 28.61
    West Med - 9.91
    West Asian - 5.60
    East Med - 1.73
    Red Sea - 0.43
    South Asian - 0.42
    East Asian - 0.36
    Siberian - 0.64
    Amerindian - 0.91
    Oceanian - 0.15
    North-East African - 0.01
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.10

    Orcadian

    North Atlantic - 51.33
    Baltic - 24.44
    West Med - 12.68
    West Asian - 4.97
    East Med - 2.50
    Red Sea - 0.31
    South Asian - 1.00
    East Asian - 0.23
    Siberian - 1.05
    Amerindian - 0.81
    Oceanian - 0.39
    North-East African - 0.08
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.20

    South_Dutch

    North Atlantic - 44.59
    Baltic - 22.22
    West Med - 15.74
    West Asian - 6.01
    East Med - 7.37
    Red Sea - 1.47
    South Asian - 1.05
    East Asian - 0.20
    Siberian - 0.84
    Amerindian - 0.24
    Oceanian - 0.02
    North-East African - 0.09
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.16

    Southeast_English

    North Atlantic - 50.52
    Baltic - 23.27
    West Med - 13.98
    West Asian - 4.46
    East Med - 5.09
    Red Sea - 0.09
    South Asian - 1.08
    East Asian - 0.04
    Siberian - 0.06
    Amerindian - 0.62
    Oceanian - 0.62
    North-East African - 0.17
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.04

    Southwest_English

    North Atlantic - 51.98
    Baltic - 22.10
    West Med - 15.10
    West Asian - 4.92
    East Med - 2.70
    Red Sea - 0.95
    South Asian - 0.88
    East Asian - 0.12
    Siberian - 0.05
    Amerindian - 0.15
    Oceanian - 0.59
    North-East African - 0.28
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.16

    Southwest_Finnish

    North Atlantic - 38.50
    Baltic - 43.46
    West Med - 6.96
    West Asian - 1.93
    East Med - 1.34
    Red Sea - 0.49
    South Asian - 0.69
    East Asian - 0.10
    Siberian - 4.96
    Amerindian - 1.10
    Oceanian - 0.25
    North-East African - 0.14
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.08

    Southwest_French

    North Atlantic - 42.35
    Baltic - 13.57
    West Med - 30.54
    West Asian - 1.36
    East Med - 8.85
    Red Sea - 1.65
    South Asian - 0.33
    East Asian - 0.05
    Siberian - 0.62
    Amerindian - 0.64
    Oceanian - 0.01
    North-East African - 0.02
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.00

    Swedish

    North Atlantic - 48.53
    Baltic - 31.09
    West Med - 9.25
    West Asian - 5.20
    East Med - 1.35
    Red Sea - 0.51
    South Asian - 0.72
    East Asian - 0.38
    Siberian - 0.83
    Amerindian - 0.68
    Oceanian - 0.71
    North-East African - 0.21
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.55

    West_German

    North Atlantic - 43.15
    Baltic - 22.44
    West Med - 14.78
    West Asian - 6.85
    East Med - 8.54
    Red Sea - 0.86
    South Asian - 0.94
    East Asian - 0.13
    Siberian - 0.40
    Amerindian - 0.60
    Oceanian - 0.64
    North-East African - 0.47
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.22

    West_Scottish

    North Atlantic - 53.18
    Baltic - 23.35
    West Med - 12.31
    West Asian - 5.56
    East Med - 1.72
    Red Sea - 0.88
    South Asian - 1.14
    East Asian - 0.05
    Siberian - 0.47
    Amerindian - 0.80
    Oceanian - 0.34
    North-East African - 0.08
    Sub-Saharan African - 0.12
     
    Y-DNA : R1b-P312>DF27>Z196>L176.2>Z262>SRY2627*

    mtDNA : J1c8

    Lactase Persistence: rs4988235 - AA rs182549 - TT

    EEF 49.22068981
    WHG 35.89409732
    ANE 14.88521287


    Eurogenes K7:
    WHG 61.67%
    ENF 19.35%
    ANE 15.21%


    Ysearch - ky8wb

    ftdna - 151463

    23andMe - M936999

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    My father's results... Paper trial is all colonial american except one immigrant ancestor couple who came from Germany around 1840s. Paper trail is mostly:

    1) Brittish
    2) German
    3) Swiss
    4) Sotch-Irish

    K13 results
     

    North_Atlantic 43.81%
    Baltic 23.65%
    West_Med 16.40%
    West_Asian 5.06%
    East_Med 4.41%
    Red_Sea 2.93%
    South_Asian 2.30%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.56%
    Amerindian 0.22%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.67%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Dutch @ 4.113004
    2 West_German @ 5.613674
    3 Southeast_English @ 7.908403
    4 North_German @ 8.452296
    5 Southwest_English @ 8.973076
    6 Orcadian @ 9.182965
    7 French @ 9.280577
    8 North_Dutch @ 9.515238
    9 Danish @ 9.582774
    10 Irish @ 10.236231
    11 Austrian @ 10.464221
    12 West_Scottish @ 10.883141
    13 East_German @ 11.322596
    14 Norwegian @ 11.784261
    15 Swedish @ 12.158998
    16 Hungarian @ 15.965044
    17 North_Swedish @ 16.459850
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 17.669210
    19 Spanish_Galicia @ 18.100586
    20 Southwest_French @ 18.528603

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% French +50% Swedish @ 3.741018


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Spanish_Aragon +25% Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.438021


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.318868
    2 East_German + North_German + Spanish_Galicia + West_Scottish @ 2.322898
    3 East_German + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.328609
    4 Danish + East_German + Irish + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.346802
    5 East_German + Irish + North_Dutch + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.347914
    6 East_German + Irish + North_German + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.348050
    7 East_German + Irish + Irish + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.352802
    8 East_German + Irish + Orcadian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.384429
    9 Irish + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish @ 2.408199
    10 Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.415187
    11 Irish + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish @ 2.417142
    12 Austrian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.429354
    13 Southwest_English + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish @ 2.431989
    14 Irish + Irish + Spanish_Aragon + Ukrainian_Lviv @ 2.438021
    15 Danish + East_German + Spanish_Galicia + West_Scottish @ 2.444172
    16 East_German + Norwegian + Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.445578
    17 Austrian + Irish + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 2.452777
    18 East_German + North_Dutch + Spanish_Galicia + West_Scottish @ 2.458691
    19 East_German + Irish + Norwegian + Spanish_Galicia @ 2.463714
    20 Southwest_English + Spanish_Galicia + Ukrainian_Lviv + West_Scottish @ 2.472896



    My mother's results... Paper trail, pretty much 100% colonial american as far as I can trace, some distant west african (very small amount, less than 1% overall but a couple distinct segments).

    1) English
    2) Scotch-Irish (meaning mostly Scottish)
    3) Irish
    4) Dutch
    5) French
    6) German

    I had her DNA tested at both Ancestry DNA and 23andme so I will share both results for comparison

    AncestryDNA
     

    North_Atlantic 48.14%
    Baltic 23.82%
    West_Med 13.63%
    West_Asian 6.24%
    East_Med 3.10%
    Red_Sea 2.31%
    South_Asian 0.34%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.40%
    Oceanian 0.90%
    Northeast_African 1.12%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.443261
    2 Orcadian @ 4.521173
    3 North_Dutch @ 4.699196
    4 Southwest_English @ 4.970921
    5 Irish @ 5.037148
    6 Danish @ 5.463315
    7 North_German @ 5.538264
    8 West_Scottish @ 5.839547
    9 South_Dutch @ 6.450474
    10 Norwegian @ 7.359328
    11 West_German @ 7.828042
    12 Swedish @ 9.036178
    13 French @ 12.716496
    14 Austrian @ 13.668488
    15 East_German @ 14.258331
    16 North_Swedish @ 15.329855
    17 Hungarian @ 19.173035
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.043806
    19 Southwest_French @ 22.011049
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.093510

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% South_Dutch @ 2.445753


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Swedish +25% West_German @ 2.337436


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 2.044692
    2 Austrian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.112627
    3 Austrian + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.163782
    4 French + Irish + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.178452
    5 Austrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.178691
    6 Austrian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 2.186574
    7 Irish + North_German + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 2.200694
    8 French + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.225803
    9 Austrian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.239578
    10 French + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.241429
    11 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.267906
    12 French + Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch @ 2.287510
    13 French + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.292742
    14 French + Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.296243
    15 French + Irish + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.299822
    16 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_German @ 2.337436
    17 French + Irish + North_German + Norwegian @ 2.344469
    18 French + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.347733
    19 French + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.351601
    20 North_German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.369668


    23andme
     

    North_Atlantic 48.31%
    Baltic 23.71%
    West_Med 13.54%
    West_Asian 5.99%
    East_Med 3.30%
    Red_Sea 2.35%
    South_Asian 0.25%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.07%
    Amerindian 0.42%
    Oceanian 1.05%
    Northeast_African 1.01%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.191674
    2 Orcadian @ 4.389425
    3 North_Dutch @ 4.639703
    4 Southwest_English @ 4.817457
    5 Irish @ 5.004986
    6 Danish @ 5.426394
    7 North_German @ 5.632669
    8 West_Scottish @ 5.717276
    9 South_Dutch @ 6.425056
    10 Norwegian @ 7.355608
    11 West_German @ 7.821790
    12 Swedish @ 9.098000
    13 French @ 12.635716
    14 Austrian @ 13.807140
    15 East_German @ 14.420538
    16 North_Swedish @ 15.392581
    17 Hungarian @ 19.294500
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.955713
    19 Southwest_French @ 21.962069
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.001106

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% South_Dutch @ 2.362583


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Swedish +25% West_German @ 2.222949


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + Irish + Irish + Swedish @ 1.939379
    2 French + Irish + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.004169
    3 French + Irish + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.070224
    4 French + Irish + North_Dutch + North_Dutch @ 2.095034
    5 Irish + North_German + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 2.120712
    6 French + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.130932
    7 Austrian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.135829
    8 French + Irish + Irish + North_German @ 2.135886
    9 Austrian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.138245
    10 French + Irish + Orcadian + Swedish @ 2.169404
    11 French + Irish + North_Dutch + Norwegian @ 2.174830
    12 Austrian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.189519
    13 French + Irish + North_Dutch + Swedish @ 2.194001
    14 Austrian + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.194727
    15 French + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_Scottish @ 2.197458
    16 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish + West_German @ 2.222949
    17 Irish + North_German + Southwest_English + West_German @ 2.223256
    18 North_German + South_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.229116
    19 French + Swedish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.229738
    20 French + Irish + North_Dutch + North_German @ 2.235114


    Some further relation to my mother's side... my mother's mother (my grandmother). Basically all my mother's paper trail minus the significant west african segments and *possibly* some very distant native american. All colonial american though.
     

    North_Atlantic 50.56%
    Baltic 23.80%
    West_Med 15.05%
    West_Asian 4.34%
    East_Med 2.59%
    Red_Sea 1.02%
    South_Asian 0.10%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.83%
    Amerindian 0.40%
    Oceanian 1.02%
    Northeast_African 0.29%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 2.593138
    2 Orcadian @ 2.984785
    3 Southeast_English @ 3.201058
    4 Irish @ 4.194903
    5 West_Scottish @ 4.316482
    6 North_Dutch @ 5.157481
    7 Danish @ 6.086803
    8 Norwegian @ 7.344068
    9 North_German @ 7.737695
    10 South_Dutch @ 8.137767
    11 Swedish @ 9.720390
    12 West_German @ 9.973117
    13 French @ 13.722581
    14 Austrian @ 16.044018
    15 North_Swedish @ 16.179819
    16 East_German @ 16.320723
    17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.220741
    18 Southwest_French @ 21.483269
    19 Hungarian @ 21.610682
    20 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.329510

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +50% Southwest_English @ 2.102557


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Norwegian +25% Southwest_French +25% West_Scottish @ 1.925346


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.752607
    2 French_Basque + Norwegian + Norwegian + Swedish @ 1.773708
    3 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.783664
    4 French_Basque + North_Dutch + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 1.851319
    5 Danish + French_Basque + Swedish + Swedish @ 1.855046
    6 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 1.916640
    7 Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_French + West_Scottish @ 1.925346
    8 French_Basque + North_Dutch + North_Dutch + North_Swedish @ 1.937344
    9 French_Basque + North_German + Norwegian + Swedish @ 1.941855
    10 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Norwegian + Swedish @ 1.968203
    11 French_Basque + Irish + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 1.968687
    12 Danish + French_Basque + Norwegian + Swedish @ 1.986026
    13 Danish + French_Basque + North_Swedish + Norwegian @ 2.004512
    14 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Swedish @ 2.037460
    15 Orcadian + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.068370
    16 Danish + French_Basque + North_Dutch + North_Swedish @ 2.070050
    17 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Norwegian + Norwegian @ 2.077094
    18 North_Dutch + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.081765
    19 Irish + Norwegian + Norwegian + Southwest_French @ 2.082801
    20 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.102557


    and also my aunt, she's my mother's sister, so definitely interesting to look at hers in comparison to my mother and grandmothers to see how my grandfather's DNA mixes things up in two different children

     

    North_Atlantic 46.11%
    Baltic 25.65%
    West_Med 12.92%
    West_Asian 6.21%
    East_Med 3.83%
    Red_Sea 2.38%
    South_Asian 0.54%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian -
    Amerindian 0.55%
    Oceanian 0.89%
    Northeast_African 0.92%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_German @ 3.934410
    2 North_Dutch @ 5.141678
    3 Danish @ 5.477635
    4 Southeast_English @ 6.094242
    5 South_Dutch @ 6.155518
    6 Orcadian @ 6.218310
    7 West_German @ 6.924871
    8 Irish @ 7.069810
    9 Norwegian @ 7.336732
    10 Southwest_English @ 7.590927
    11 Swedish @ 7.823463
    12 West_Scottish @ 8.021396
    13 Austrian @ 11.058335
    14 East_German @ 11.540876
    15 French @ 12.952828
    16 North_Swedish @ 13.283278
    17 Hungarian @ 16.467470
    18 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.554401
    19 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.652451
    20 Croatian @ 22.483124

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% South_Dutch +50% Swedish @ 2.420749


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Moldavian +25% West_Scottish @ 2.165194


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Croatian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.930945
    2 Moldavian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 1.942058
    3 Croatian + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 1.944800
    4 Hungarian + Irish + North_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 1.993580
    5 Austrian + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 1.993759
    6 Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.000208
    7 Croatian + Irish + Irish + Southwest_English @ 2.020305
    8 Irish + Moldavian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.032060
    9 East_German + Irish + Irish + West_German @ 2.043345
    10 Austrian + Irish + Norwegian + South_Dutch @ 2.053588
    11 Austrian + North_Dutch + North_German + Southwest_English @ 2.057815
    12 Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.059358
    13 French + North_German + North_German + Swedish @ 2.079565
    14 Croatian + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 2.086596
    15 Hungarian + North_German + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.093138
    16 East_German + Irish + North_Dutch + South_Dutch @ 2.094921
    17 Hungarian + Irish + North_German + Southwest_English @ 2.101534
    18 Hungarian + North_German + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 2.101731
    19 Hungarian + North_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 2.103137
    20 Austrian + Irish + North_Dutch + South_Dutch @ 2.104995


    For further comparison here's my results... again interesting to see how it compares to both my parents. With there combined ancestry I represent a pretty good vertical slice of "American"... I have mostly southern ancestry though a couple distinct lines to the north as well and my ancestry includes all sorts, English (from north and south), Swiss Mennonite/Amish, German in a couple lines, Quakers that intermixed with all sorts, Dutch (that came to New Netherlands and New Amsterdam), Scotch Irish, some distant and small West African, and possibly some distant and small Native American (though doesn't come through in my DNA except for segments indistinguishable from noise).

     

    North_Atlantic 45.72%
    Baltic 24.27%
    West_Med 14.70%
    West_Asian 7.11%
    East_Med 2.28%
    Red_Sea 3.19%
    South_Asian 0.86%
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.16%
    Amerindian 0.25%
    Oceanian 0.42%
    Northeast_African 1.04%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 South_Dutch @ 6.181388
    2 North_German @ 6.374705
    3 North_Dutch @ 6.977810
    4 Southeast_English @ 7.074763
    5 Orcadian @ 7.099834
    6 Southwest_English @ 7.390177
    7 West_German @ 7.428507
    8 Irish @ 7.476765
    9 Danish @ 7.496594
    10 West_Scottish @ 8.457613
    11 Norwegian @ 9.135160
    12 Swedish @ 9.874908
    13 Austrian @ 11.954506
    14 French @ 12.225455
    15 East_German @ 12.541168
    16 North_Swedish @ 15.270136
    17 Hungarian @ 17.513809
    18 Spanish_Cataluna @ 20.659798
    19 Spanish_Galicia @ 21.326220
    20 Southwest_French @ 21.391142

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% South_Dutch @ 4.414986


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +25% Moldavian +25% Southwest_English @ 3.550324


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.411019
    2 Moldavian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.416639
    3 Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.518460
    4 Moldavian + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.530379
    5 Moldavian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.548556
    6 Irish + Irish + Moldavian + Southwest_English @ 3.550324
    7 East_German + French + Irish + Irish @ 3.581214
    8 Austrian + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.602846
    9 Croatian + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.618763
    10 East_German + Irish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 3.636025
    11 Croatian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.647547
    12 Croatian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.658040
    13 Austrian + Irish + South_Dutch + Southwest_English @ 3.664662
    14 East_German + Irish + Irish + South_Dutch @ 3.677282
    15 Austrian + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.722501
    16 East_German + French + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.731124
    17 Irish + North_German + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish @ 3.737773
    18 East_German + Irish + South_Dutch + West_Scottish @ 3.774581
    19 Irish + Spanish_Galicia + Swedish + Swedish @ 3.776068
    20 Irish + Irish + Serbian + Southwest_English @ 3.779500
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    My results:

    Population
    North_Atlantic 45.22%
    Baltic 19.93%
    West_Med 19.46%
    West_Asian 1.03%
    East_Med 10.22%
    Red_Sea 1.23%
    South_Asian 0.64%
    East_Asian 0.80%
    Siberian 0.77%
    Amerindian 0.49%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African 0.20%
    Sub-Saharan -

    Like Krefter, my results end up identifying as "French" (see below), which isn't a huge surprise, but is at least partly because of the American mix it seems. I looked at the spreadsheet published with K13 and at the mixes from countries from which I have actual known ancestry (German, English, French, Scottish, Irish) and I can see why the single pick is French - it is the closest to my mix on the major components North Atlantic, Baltic, West Mediterranean, and East Mediterranean. These add up to about 95% of my K13 results. The other 5% does not look French at all or like any of my other known ancestry according to the spreadsheet. The biggest difference is a far reduced West Asian value and somewhat reduced South Asian value in my mix as well as an increased East Asian/Siberian/Amerindian total. So, when it gets to the multiple population Oracles, it wants to call me Spanish with a Scandinavian/Northeast European Coast component, for which I have neither in my known ancestry.

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 45.22
    2 Baltic 19.93
    3 West_Med 19.46
    4 East_Med 10.22
    5 Red_Sea 1.23
    6 West_Asian 1.03


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 French @ 5.631760
    2 South_Dutch @ 7.281215
    3 West_German @ 8.392825
    4 Southeast_English @ 10.499543
    5 Spanish_Cataluna @ 11.397309
    6 Southwest_English @ 11.940158
    7 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 12.598989
    8 Spanish_Galicia @ 13.026937
    9 Southwest_French @ 13.208151
    10 Portuguese @ 13.257956
    11 Orcadian @ 13.427024
    12 Spanish_Cantabria @ 13.539519
    13 Spanish_Valencia @ 14.187153
    14 Spanish_Murcia @ 14.428606
    15 North_Dutch @ 14.662477
    16 North_German @ 14.740215
    17 Danish @ 14.757637
    18 West_Scottish @ 14.832150
    19 Irish @ 14.936213
    20 Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha @ 14.947245

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +50% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.504413


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Danish +25% Spanish_Valencia +25% Spanish_Valencia @ 3.504413


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.683335
    2 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.706300
    3 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.820701
    4 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Murcia @ 2.878946
    5 North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.897463
    6 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia @ 2.987026
    7 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.028781
    8 Southeast_English + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.062009
    9 North_Swedish + Southwest_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.065564
    10 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 3.094257
    11 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.121928
    12 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Cataluna @ 3.140980
    13 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Cataluna + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.142444
    14 North_Swedish + Portuguese + Southeast_English + Spanish_Aragon @ 3.147339
    15 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Murcia @ 3.155348
    16 North_Swedish + Spanish_Valencia + Spanish_Valencia + West_Scottish @ 3.184895
    17 Southeast_English + Spanish_Murcia + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.203302
    18 Southeast_English + Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon + Spanish_Valencia + Swedish @ 3.221535
    19 North_Swedish + Orcadian + Spanish_Aragon + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.225515
    20 North_Swedish + Southeast_English + Spanish_Andalucia + Spanish_Valencia @ 3.248659

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