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    Salkin's Geno 2.0

    Not such a bad turnaround time. They received my kit Oct 31 and I got my results today.

    hominin.PNG

    I wasn't expecting to have any Denisovan, let alone more than Neanderthal. (23andMe calls me 3.0% Neanderthal)

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    I already knew from FTDNA's mtFullSequence that I'm in a mystery subclade of I2, but it's nice to get more detail on my G subclade. CTS4803 doesn't seem unreasonable - I seem to be in the expected catchment area for it according to the G-L497 project.

    refpop1.PNG
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    I know a lot of people have gotten bizarre reference populations assigned, but these aren't too crazy, though not fully what I'd expected. I might have expected German rather than British, and Danish in the first rather than second place.

    For comparison:
    german.PNG
    Last edited by Salkin; 12-12-2014 at 10:00 AM. Reason: tyop
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    I think there's a calculator effect in Geno2 and that's why, for example, testers of British or similar origins never get as high N Euro as the reference population.

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    It seems your ancient paternal ancestor was a Near Eastern farmer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZephyrousMandaru View Post
    It seems your ancient paternal ancestor was a Near Eastern farmer.
    Indeed, one of the lucky few to survive the onslaught of more recent haplogroup bearers and propagate his genes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Salkin View Post
    Not such a bad turnaround time. They received my kit Oct 31 and I got my results today.

    hominin.PNG

    I wasn't expecting to have any Denisovan, let alone more than Neanderthal. (23andMe calls me 3.0% Neanderthal)

    haplogroups.PNG

    I already knew from FTDNA's mtFullSequence that I'm in a mystery subclade of I2, but it's nice to get more detail on my G subclade. CTS4803 doesn't seem unreasonable - I seem to be in the expected catchment area for it according to the G-L497 project.

    refpop1.PNG
    refpop2.PNG

    I know a lot of people have gotten bizarre reference populations assigned, but these aren't too crazy, though not fully what I'd expected. I might have expected German rather than British, and Danish in the first rather than second place.

    For comparison:
    german.PNG
    G-L497, IIRC a paper 2 years ago, states this marker is alpine from Austria ........Austrian have 80% of this subclade for their G people

    http://www.blutspendezurich.ch/Media...20G%282%29.pdf
    Last edited by vettor; 01-26-2015 at 05:06 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, LT-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 yDna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtDna
    Son's mtDna = K1a4p

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    Dear Salkin,
    Where did you find the reference population data?
    Thanks,
    dp :-)
    Quote Originally Posted by Salkin View Post
    Not such a bad turnaround time. They received my kit Oct 31 and I got my results today.

    hominin.PNG

    I wasn't expecting to have any Denisovan, let alone more than Neanderthal. (23andMe calls me 3.0% Neanderthal)

    haplogroups.PNG

    I already knew from FTDNA's mtFullSequence that I'm in a mystery subclade of I2, but it's nice to get more detail on my G subclade. CTS4803 doesn't seem unreasonable - I seem to be in the expected catchment area for it according to the G-L497 project.

    refpop1.PNG
    refpop2.PNG

    I know a lot of people have gotten bizarre reference populations assigned, but these aren't too crazy, though not fully what I'd expected. I might have expected German rather than British, and Danish in the first rather than second place.

    For comparison:
    german.PNG
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    ysearch/mitosearch id: atr94 GENBANK/ENA mtDNA id: KF703542 member ISOGG

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Powell View Post
    Dear Salkin,
    Where did you find the reference population data?
    Thanks,
    dp :-)
    It's on the Geno 2.0 site after you log in, under "Explore Your Results" for "Your Regional Ancestry". I don't know if it's available to people without a Geno 2.0 result - can't seem to find a link to it offhand, anyhow.
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    Anyone can access the Geno 2.0 reference populations at https://genographic.nationalgeograph...e-populations/ as well as the 9 ancestral regions at https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/regions/

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Powell View Post
    Dear Salkin,
    Where did you find the reference population data?
    Thanks,
    dp :-)

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    they have weird results

    mine

    first preference - German
    You 48% Mediterranean ........... 33% Northern European.....................18% Southwest Asian

    how can you be German as your number 1 and me also , yet our numbers are vastly different?


    They also have updated my SNP, with a message thats like .....we have updated our Ydna Tree blah blah .....have you ever seen a Ydna tree in natgeno2 ??
    Last edited by vettor; 01-26-2015 at 11:57 PM.


    My Path = ( K-M9+, LT-P326+, T-M184+, L490+, M70+, PF5664+, L131+, L446+, CTS933+, CTS3767+, CTS8862+, Z19945+, BY143483+ )


    Grandfather via paternal grandmother = I1-CTS6397 yDna
    Great grandmother paternal side = T1a1e mtDna
    Son's mtDna = K1a4p

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    Quote Originally Posted by vettor View Post
    @salkin


    they have weird results

    mine

    first preference - German
    You 48% Mediterranean ........... 33% Northern European.....................18% Southwest Asian

    how can you be German as your number 1 and me also , yet our numbers are vastly different?


    They also have updated my SNP, with a message thats like .....we have updated our Ydna Tree blah blah .....have you ever seen a Ydna tree in natgeno2 ??
    Yeah, the assigned reference populations seem to be very strange for a lot of people.

    I've never seen a visualised Y (or mt, for that matter) tree, but they presumably have one in some form that they use to assign haplogroup designations. i.e. reference material that says "if you have SNPs x, y and z you belong to haplogroup a"
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