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    When Scotland was Jewish

    Has anyone read this?


    "When Scotland was Jewish: DNA Evidence, Archeology, Analysis of Migrations"
    By Elizabeth Caldwell Hirschman, Donald Neal Yates

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Has anyone read this?


    "When Scotland was Jewish: DNA Evidence, Archeology, Analysis of Migrations"
    By Elizabeth Caldwell Hirschman, Donald Neal Yates
    Hi Wolfie,

    I haven't read it myself but it isn't impossible that people with ancient tribal affiliations found their way to the Isles during different periods of the diaspora. In my opinion the ancient tribes of Israel formed after leaving Egypt and were largely comprised of Hyksos with the Hebrews being the leadership of each tribe. So you could have people from the tribe of Dan having entered into the Isles (or other tribes for that matter) but it doesn't mean they were actual Hebrews.

    George

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    No, but the last king of Scotland was apparently Ugandan and possibly even a cannibal, so hey, who am I to be skeptical?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolfie View Post
    Has anyone read this?


    "When Scotland was Jewish: DNA Evidence, Archeology, Analysis of Migrations"
    By Elizabeth Caldwell Hirschman, Donald Neal Yates
    This sounds like a theory from a Dan Brown novel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Leeroy Jenkins View Post
    No, but the last king of Scotland was apparently Ugandan and possibly even a cannibal, so hey, who am I to be skeptical?

    Allegedly, he wanted to rename Uganda after his own first name, but changed his mind when he found out people from Cyprus are called Cypriots.
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    I did read that Scotland was the only European country to never have a pogrom on its small Jewish trading communities in the cities. Anyway Happy Hogmanay everyone. Remember its bad luck forr a blonde or redhead and good luck to have someone tall dark and handsome as the first person through your door after midnight tonight. Thats why I always step outside the door for a second and come back in on the stroke of midnight :0)

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    Quote Originally Posted by alan View Post
    I did read that Scotland was the only European country to never have a pogrom on its small Jewish trading communities in the cities.
    True. If anyone is interested in boring old facts, here's the summary from my webpage on synagogues:

    Jews are mentioned in English ecclesiastical documents as early as 740 AD and came to England in significant numbers after the Norman conquest, settling in London and other towns of significant size: Bristol, Cambridge, Canterbury, Exeter, Gloucester, Hereford, Ipswich, Nottingham, Warwick, Worcester and York. After outbreaks of anti-Semitism, they were driven from England in 1290. Wales was under English rule by that time. There was no persecution of Jews in Scotland, but little to attract them there either at that date. Urban life was less developed in Scotland than in England. What's more - England and Scotland were at war. Most English Jews left for France and Belgium.
    http://www.buildinghistory.org/build...nagogues.shtml

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    I recall that the Scots were said to have had an aversion to pork consumption until a few centuries ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apophis99942 View Post
    I recall that the Scots were said to have had an aversion to pork consumption until a few centuries ago.
    Here's Wikipedia on the topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_pork_taboo . As you see, this was a naive idea by writers noting that pigs were little kept in the period 1500 and 1800, when there was a shortage of pig fodder, and attributing this to superstition.

    An archaeological survey of pork consumption in Scotland by the Society of Antiquities in Scotland in 2000 states: "Whether there is any archaeological evidence of this prejudice against pigs, for whatever reason, is open to question." and that "During the medieval period, it has been noted that rural sites contained more pig bones than urban sites, and that the lowest relative frequencies come from the most southerly of the burghs considered, Peebles and Perth. This contradicts the notion that it was the ‘Highlanders’ who abhorred pork, unless it is assumed that, despite this dislike, they continued to produce it for sale to others."
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    Full disclosure: I've only been able to piece together the book's arguments from a number of online comments and reviews, so take this for what it's worth. It smacks of the same kind of method that gave us Anglo-Israelism (or British-Israelism) a couple of centuries ago, butressed by the same kinds of dodgy linguistic associations, uncorroborated genealogies, and pseudo-history. While I'm sure it will be a fun read for some, that's not where I want to put my money. If someone has read it, and it isn't revisionist clap-trap, I'll reconsider.

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