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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    YP4278 reaches highest percentage in Eastern Herzegovina (~4-5%), and you seem to have a connection with one particular cluster (H4=12; 456=15; 576=18; 570=19; 549=12). Unfortunately, none of the members of this cluster has been tested at FTDNA yet, but I can tell that you have three close matches, with two of them the difference is 2/18, and with third 1/16. The third one also shares two specific values with you (19=16 and 391=10), and differs only on 389ii (he has 30).
    Thank you Pribislav.

    Would you have the TMRCA?

    Is this branch represented in Montenegro?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    One is from around Ljubinje, the other two from around Mostar. TMRCA of this Serbian cluster is 1052-1150 years, based on STRs.

    Attachment 20596
    Is mine with this cluster around the same time frame?

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdbr1234 View Post
    Is mine with this cluster around the same time frame?
    Seems that way. You may have a more terminal SNP with a different TMRCA if you were to do a full Y. It appears(per this cluster) that this is the TMRCA between you and them. So I imagine it broke off en route to the area around 850-948 AD. Maybe this is when it was absorbed into Albanians. Albanian for about 1000 years it seems. Kind of like mine(assuming my TMRCA with my match).
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdbr1234 View Post
    How bout to start the new year with a nice R1a

    My Haplo:
    R-M198>Z280>CTS1211>Y35>YP4278>YP4441-A

    What can you guys tell me about it?

    Also, I have only 1 match at y37 and it is I believe a Croatian from Western Herzegovina. I was trying to read more on Porelko about this but was more confused than anything.

    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-Y35/
    Welcome to the club.

    I noticed your results on the FTDNA R1a project, but there was no info regarding your background.

    It would be great if that guy from Čitluk joined the R1a Project too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdbr1234 View Post
    Is mine with this cluster around the same time frame?
    It's rather difficult to confidently estimate the TMRCA with such limited number of tested STRs.

    You have been placed in the YP4278>YP4441 subclade at the R1a project, based on your haplotype. Perhaps it would be best to test the YP4441 SNP first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trdbr1234 View Post
    Is this branch represented in Montenegro?
    There is just a few YP4278 in Montenegro, mostly in the western part, but none from the subcluster closest to you.

    Quote Originally Posted by trdbr1234 View Post
    Is mine with this cluster around the same time frame?
    I would say it's around the same time frame, give or take 100 years. Only one of eight YP4278 Serbs tested at FTDNA has 459=9-10 and none have CDY=33-39, but IMO members of this subcluster closest to you might have these values.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rigel View Post
    Welcome to the club.

    I noticed your results on the FTDNA R1a project, but there was no info regarding your background.

    It would be great if that guy from Čitluk joined the R1a Project too.
    Seems like a cool club.

    I've emailed him but he hasn't responded.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rigel View Post
    It's rather difficult to confidently estimate the TMRCA with such limited number of tested STRs.

    You have been placed in the YP4278>YP4441 subclade at the R1a project, based on your haplotype. Perhaps it would be best to test the YP4441 SNP first.
    I understand.

    I might just wait a bit before I start testing further. From what it seems, only deep testing might provide more answers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pribislav View Post
    There is just a few YP4278 in Montenegro, mostly in the western part, but none from the subcluster closest to you.

    I would say it's around the same time frame, give or take 100 years. Only one of eight YP4278 Serbs tested at FTDNA has 459=9-10 and none have CDY=33-39, but IMO members of this subcluster closest to you might have these values.
    Thank you once again, Pribislav.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Seems that way. You may have a more terminal SNP with a different TMRCA if you were to do a full Y. It appears(per this cluster) that this is the TMRCA between you and them. So I imagine it broke off en route to the area around 850-948 AD. Maybe this is when it was absorbed into Albanians. Albanian for about 1000 years it seems. Kind of like mine(assuming my TMRCA with my match).
    Simply more questions. loll

    I imagine in 5 or less years we will have determinate answers, with the way this science is moving.

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