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    Post Post your data for East Eurasian vs. West Eurasian Plots

    With a three day weekend coming up, I will have a little time to do a couple of plots for members posting their data.

    I decided to focus on a low k admix calculator, so that I can cover much admixture with just 2 two dimensional plots. Although high k calculators narrow an individual’s ancestry down to a sub-regional level, they are too time consuming to plot, since many plots are needed to cover an individual’s sampled genome. In addition to being too time consuming to plot, one has to scan numerous charts, and add all the distances to compare 2 or more individuals.

    I chose the MDLP k5 (Gedmatch) because it allows a West and East Eurasian comparison, and I can cover much of a member’s admixture with just 2 plots;

    1. West Eurasia vs East Eurasia
    2. Caucasian vs. S. Asian

    If anyone wishes to be included in the plots, please have your data posted by Saturday evening, since I anticipate doing the plots on Sunday.

    The plots will be most informative if members from various ethnic backgrounds (Europeans, W Asians, S Asians, etc.) post their data.

    To get the ball rolling, here is my data:




    EDIT: I would not get too hung up on the definitions of the components, but from cross checking my results against results from other calculators, and comparing them to some members that have posted, it appears that W Asian & perhaps something else is lumped into Caucasian. South Asian seems to encompass "W/SW Indian" + ?. E Eurasian maybe ASE + E Asian + NE Asian. W Eurasian may cover E/NE European. Some of the European members may be able to shed light on Paleo Mediterranean by cross checking it with results they get from other calcluators.

    2nd EDIT: Paleo Mediterranean ~EEF?
    Last edited by Kurd; 02-13-2015 at 01:17 PM.

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    Here is mine. I don't mind my kit number being shown. I doubt anyone is going to use it for criminal purposes.

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    I see why this is meant to be used for Europeans only...

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    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.40%
    West_Eurasian 45.93%
    Caucasian 13.06%
    South_Asian 1.71%
    Paleo_mediterranean 37.90%

    Sorry it's so small...
    Ancestry - 7/8ths English 1/8th Polish.

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    "You fit into what I call the North Sea cluster, which includes people who live around the North Sea, like those from eastern England and Scotland, the northern Netherlands, northwest Germany, and western Scandinavia."

    "On my system your best population fit is:
    ½ East English, ¼ Norwegian, ¼ North Dutch
    "57% indigenous European hunter-gatherer and 42% Neolithic farmer"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf Warrior View Post
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    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.40%
    West_Eurasian 45.93%
    Caucasian 13.06%
    South_Asian 1.71%
    Paleo_mediterranean 37.90%

    Sorry it's so small...
    Your Paleo_mediterranean value is quite interesting compared to your ancestry
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    I, too, seem to get a lot of Paleo_Mediterranean.

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    FTDNA kit: 367588

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    Quote Originally Posted by jtoml4 View Post
    Your Paleo_mediterranean value is quite interesting compared to your ancestry
    What does Paleo-Mediterranean represent?

    My Grandfather,

    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.31%
    West_Eurasian 47.05%
    Caucasian 10.90%
    South_Asian 2.12%
    Paleo_mediterranean 38.61%

    My Mother,

    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.36%
    West_Eurasian 48.89%
    Caucasian 11.28%
    South_Asian 2.24%
    Paleo_mediterranean 36.24%

    Father,
    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.17%
    West_Eurasian 45.99%
    Caucasian 13.25%
    South_Asian 1.17%
    Paleo_mediterranean 38.42%
    Ancestry - 7/8ths English 1/8th Polish.

    An anaylysis by Davidski
    "You fit into what I call the North Sea cluster, which includes people who live around the North Sea, like those from eastern England and Scotland, the northern Netherlands, northwest Germany, and western Scandinavia."

    "On my system your best population fit is:
    ½ East English, ¼ Norwegian, ¼ North Dutch
    "57% indigenous European hunter-gatherer and 42% Neolithic farmer"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wulf Warrior View Post
    What does Paleo-Mediterranean represent?

    My Grandfather,

    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.31%
    West_Eurasian 47.05%
    Caucasian 10.90%
    South_Asian 2.12%
    Paleo_mediterranean 38.61%

    My Mother,

    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.36%
    West_Eurasian 48.89%
    Caucasian 11.28%
    South_Asian 2.24%
    Paleo_mediterranean 36.24%

    Father,
    Population
    East_Eurasian 1.17%
    West_Eurasian 45.99%
    Caucasian 13.25%
    South_Asian 1.17%
    Paleo_mediterranean 38.42%
    I came across this, http://thehelicaltree.blogspot.com.a...admixture.html

    Paleo-Mediterranean:

    One of the sub-races in Caucasian and Europian, the others being Alpine (Celtic), Dinaric, and Nordic.

    Mediterranean race is defined by dark hair and eyes, aquiline nose, swarthy or olive complexion, moderate to short stature, moderate to long skull and was prevalent in Southern Europe, North Africa, Horn of Africa, Western Asia, South Asia, Eastern Europe, portions of England, Wales, Ireland, and Scotland.

    Mediterranean includes: Gracile, Ibero-Insular, West Mediterranean, Atlantid,/Atlanto Mediterranean, Pontic/East Mediterranean, Berberid, Orientalid (also refering to Arabid and Iranid races).


    Seems quite broad. I thought mine was large due to my Croatian ancestry but apparently it has quite a bit included.
    Ancestry on paper: English, Scottish, Irish, Welsh, Croatian, Ashkenazi, Polish and Māori.

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    And my mother's.



    I suspect Paleo-Mediterranean is a component most Europeans, even northerners like us, have a good helping of.
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    F367588 (FTDNA)

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