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    SNP Advice

    Hi all,

    I've tested U152+ on 23andMe, and recently received my Y-DNA67 results. I'm looking to do some further SNP testing, but am unsure of where to start. I'd greatly appreciate any advice on how best to proceed.

    Some points of interest that I've noticed are the following YCAII=19-22, DYS393=14, and DYS492=13. My full set of markers can be found at Ysearch with ID: Y6QVE

    Cheers,
    Tommy

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    Quote Originally Posted by jashper View Post
    Hi all,

    I've tested U152+ on 23andMe, and recently received my Y-DNA67 results. I'm looking to do some further SNP testing, but am unsure of where to start. I'd greatly appreciate any advice on how best to proceed.

    Some points of interest that I've noticed are the following YCAII=19-22, DYS393=14, and DYS492=13. My full set of markers can be found at Ysearch with ID: Y6QVE

    Cheers,
    Tommy
    Hi Tommy,

    Are you reported R1b1b2a1a2d or R1b1b2a1a2d* at 23andMe?
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    Its owner belonged to the sixth cavalry unit of the Equites Stablesiani. On the right side of the helmet cap it says ‘Stablesia VI'.

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    R1b1b2a1a2d*, thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by jashper View Post
    R1b1b2a1a2d*, thanks
    Well, that means you're negative for L2. That leaves us with Z56, Z36, PF6658/Z193 and a couple of smaller subclades.

    Z56 --> DYS492=14 is a strong indicator for Z56 but DYS492=13 is also found in Z56, so that is still an option.
    Z36 --> At the moment there aren't any Z36+ men with a DYS492=13 in the U152 project, so that makes Z36 less likely.
    Z193 --> Unfortunately PF6658 and Z193 aren't available for individual testing because of the location on the Y chromosome.

    A number of smaller subclades (and also Z36 and Z56) can be tested at YSEQ ($17,50 per SNP).
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    Roman helmet, gilded silver, 319-323 A.D. Made by Marcus Titus Lunamis. Found in 1910, Helenaveen, The Netherlands.
    Its owner belonged to the sixth cavalry unit of the Equites Stablesiani. On the right side of the helmet cap it says ‘Stablesia VI'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mafe View Post
    Well, that means you're negative for L2. That leaves us with Z56, Z36, PF6658/Z193 and a couple of smaller subclades.

    Z56 --> DYS492=14 is a strong indicator for Z56 but DYS492=13 is also found in Z56, so that is still an option.
    Z36 --> At the moment there aren't any Z36+ men with a DYS492=13 in the U152 project, so that makes Z36 less likely.
    Z193 --> Unfortunately PF6658 and Z193 aren't available for individual testing because of the location on the Y chromosome.

    A number of smaller subclades (and also Z36 and Z56) can be tested at YSEQ ($17,50 per SNP).
    Much appreciated! I'll go ahead and place an order for Z56 then.

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    Out of curiosity, would you happen to know why Z56 is not listed on the Y-DNA haplotree at FamilyTreeDNA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jashper View Post
    Much appreciated! I'll go ahead and place an order for Z56 then.
    Have you contacted the U152 project admins to see if they have got some advice on what to order?

    Quote Originally Posted by jashper View Post
    Out of curiosity, would you happen to know why Z56 is not listed on the Y-DNA haplotree at FamilyTreeDNA?
    I believe the current tree is based on the Geno 2.0 results. Z56 failed on the Geno chip and I believe many SNPs downstream of Z56 failed aswell. So that might be a reason why they didn't include it.
    Last edited by mafe; 02-26-2015 at 11:08 PM.
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    Its owner belonged to the sixth cavalry unit of the Equites Stablesiani. On the right side of the helmet cap it says ‘Stablesia VI'.

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    Are you a member of U152 and Subclades Research Project https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b-u152/ ?

    I think the admins could place you to the right branch based on your Y-STR67 results here: https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ction=yresults
    Y-DNA: R-Y14088 (ISOGG: R1b1a1a2a1a2b1c2b1a1a)
    mtDNA: J1c1i (J1c1 + 7735G and 8848C) Extras: 198T 12007A 16422C 16431A

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    I think PF6658/Z193 was also unreliable due to Heterozygosity!

    I know S20550 is available at Yseq which is 'downstream' of PF6658/Z193.

    It looks like it is quite old too judging by 287052 Abraham Valine and B3265 Peter Searfoss/Zerfass both being S20550+ !


    Quote Originally Posted by mafe View Post
    Z193 --> Unfortunately PF6658 and Z193 aren't available for individual testing because of the location on the Y chromosome.

    A number of smaller subclades (and also Z36 and Z56) can be tested at YSEQ ($17,50 per SNP).
    Last edited by Solothurn; 03-01-2015 at 04:28 AM.
    LivingDNA:

    GB and Ire 98.5%
    South Germanic 1.5%


    Ancestry:

    Eng, Wales & NW Euro 50%
    North Eng, Ire and Scot 39%
    Norway 5%
    Sweden 4%
    Germanic Europe 2%

    NatGen:

    42% North Euro
    37% Mediterranean
    19% SW Asian

    Known ancestral lines:

    U152: BY3644 @ Vallum Aelium
    H1c3b Salford (mother)
    U4a3a Biddick, Durham (pat grandfather's mother)
    U198 Stanhope, Durham (pat gg grandfather)
    K1a-T195C! Wigan, Lancs (pat grandmother)

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    Is your Z56 result in yet?

    Quote Originally Posted by jashper View Post
    Much appreciated! I'll go ahead and place an order for Z56 then.
    LivingDNA:

    GB and Ire 98.5%
    South Germanic 1.5%


    Ancestry:

    Eng, Wales & NW Euro 50%
    North Eng, Ire and Scot 39%
    Norway 5%
    Sweden 4%
    Germanic Europe 2%

    NatGen:

    42% North Euro
    37% Mediterranean
    19% SW Asian

    Known ancestral lines:

    U152: BY3644 @ Vallum Aelium
    H1c3b Salford (mother)
    U4a3a Biddick, Durham (pat grandfather's mother)
    U198 Stanhope, Durham (pat gg grandfather)
    K1a-T195C! Wigan, Lancs (pat grandmother)

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