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    Cool New FTDNA Red Hair Variants Project

    Hey! FTDNA finally approved my request to create a red hair variants project.

    I have not really totally finished setting it up, but here's the link:

    Red Hair Variants

    First off, do not join unless you are a carrier of at least one of the red hair variants on the MC1R (Melanocortin 1 Receptor) gene. Membership is open, but I will not place you in a category until you send me an email telling me which variant you carry and how you know about it (autosomal test results - be specific).

    In order to find out whether or not you are a carrier of one of the red hair variants, you must download your Family Finder raw data to your computer using a program like 7Zip, which is available online for free. Open your raw data using the program of your choice (like 7Zip). Click on the "Find & Select" function in the upper right of the spreadsheet and then on "find". Type the RefSNP number from the table on the project's background page in the box that appears and click on "FIND NEXT". The RefSNP should appear inside a bold box. Look at column D and determine if you have at least one risk allele (for example, a T at rs1805008). If you do, you are a carrier and eligible to join the Red Hair Variants Project.

    You do not have to have red hair to join this project. If you carry only one risk allele of a red hair variant, you probably do not have red hair, but you are a carrier and can pass the trait on to your children. Red hair is a recessive trait. It generally takes at least two risk alleles for a person to actually have red hair.

    If you have 23andMe results or BritainsDNA (IrelandsDNA, etc.) Red Head Test results and are an FTDNA customer, join the project and send me an email explaining how you are a carrier.
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    You should mention that Family Finder does not test rs1805007 (on R151C), hence those with that red hair variant cannot join your project.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    You should mention that Family Finder does not test rs1805007, hence those with that red hair variant cannot join your project.
    I already have that info on the project's background page. I have two tables there: one of the variants included in Family Finder, and one of some of the common variants that are not included in Family Finder.

    I will accept folks with 23andMe or BritainsDNA results, as long as they can tell me which variant they carry and how they know.

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    Sounds like an interesting project, when I get some spare time I'll look through my Family Finders and see who is eligible. My father and and several of his siblings are redheads, some of which have done Family Finder and I know they have some of the redhead risk alleles, I can't remember which ones off the top of my head.

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    Are you more interested in the geographic distribution of these alleles or in the genotype/phenotype relationship, or perhaps both questions and more?

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    Will you use this project to research the distribution and origin of red hair variants? The pre-historic red hair carriers from Haak 2015 will be an attractive addition to your project(once a paper is published about Haak 2015 phenotype data). If someone makes a reconstruction of Motala 5 maybe you should make him the logo of the project.


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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    I already have that info on the project's background page. I have two tables there: one of the variants included in Family Finder, and one of some of the common variants that are not included in Family Finder.

    I will accept folks with 23andMe or BritainsDNA results, as long as they can tell me which variant they carry and how they know.
    23andMe in both cases.

    I manage 2 kits :

    161818 has 1 copy rs1805007
    N48992 has 1 copy each of rs1805007 and rs1805008
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    m gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    m gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    m ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

    other:
    Turner: R-U152
    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Huntergatherer1066 View Post
    Are you more interested in the geographic distribution of these alleles or in the genotype/phenotype relationship, or perhaps both questions and more?
    I'm interested in whatever the data will show and in having interesting discussions about their interpretation.

    I saw some new members this morning, but, unfortunately, I still have to work for a living, so sorting things out will have to wait until this evening.

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    If you join the project, please remember to send me an email telling me which variant(s) you carry and how you know you carry it or them; otherwise, I can't tell.

    If you have red hair, you will still need some autosomal test results to know which variant(s) you carry.

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