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    Can I transfer my first generation Nat Genographic test results to something useful?

    Hi, I took the first generation Nat Genographic test when it came out in 2005/2006. I find it totally useless the way it is. So is there a way I can upgrade it to Geno 2.0 or something else that will be much more informative?
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    So you have yDNA 12-marker (or perhaps mtDNA HVR1) results. I presume that up until now, you have never transferred those results into a Family Tree DNA account. Well, now is the time to do so, if this page still accepts the old (1.0) Genographic results.

    Once you have an FTDNA account, you can upgrade in various ways. If your original Genographic test was 12-marker yDNA, I suggest going straight for the Big Y ($475 if you apply a $100-off coupon).

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    ^ I'll second that. There is a chance that a Big Y upgrade may require a fresh DNA sample, so make sure your contact information and mailing address is current.

    FTDNA's lab in Houston Texas performed all of the Genographic tests, so the transfer is essentially an inside job, i.e. assigning a new FTDNA kit number (prefixed with "N") to the anonymous GPID specified, and then copying your data from one computer system to another. The physical DNA samples collected for Genographic are kept in FTDNA's cold-storage facility in Houston on behalf of the National Geographic Society.

    https://genographic.nationalgeograph...-dna-processed

    Also, it would be to your advantage to join the applicable haplogroup project(s) after transferring to FTDNA. If you can post your current Geno1 results here (and / or upload them to ysearch.org or mitosearch.org as the case may be after transferring (which can be done from your FTDNA profile page with a single button press), and advise what your Ysearch or Mitosearch ID is, I'm sure someone here would be able to take a look and direct you to the most relevant project(s).

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    Thank you gentlemen.
    Is it possible to upgrade my first geno to Geno 2.0?

    PS.I will post my results here shorty.

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    There isn't a direct upgrade path from Geno1 to Geno2, as Geno2 requires a fresh DNA sample anyway. But you can order Geno2, and then link your Geno1 GPID and your Geno2 GPID together in a single account once you return the new sample for processing.

    Personally, I think Geno2 ($189.95 US with the current $10 discount applied), is a poor investment, but I guess it depends on what you hope to get out of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VinceT View Post
    There isn't a direct upgrade path from Geno1 to Geno2, as Geno2 requires a fresh DNA sample anyway. But you can order Geno2, and then link your Geno1 GPID and your Geno2 GPID together in a single account once you return the new sample for processing.

    Personally, I think Geno2 ($189.95 US with the current $10 discount applied), is a poor investment, but I guess it depends on what you hope to get out of it.
    Hi it seems that I have transferred my Geno 1 test results to FTDNA. But I do not know how to post the results here.
    The reason why I am doing this is because I took the YDNA 67 marker test, but I am being told that in order to find out my exact subclade I need to take the Geno 2.0.
    I am O2b-M176
    but we are not sure if I am O2b1b-K4 or O2b1b1-L682 or O2b1b2-K3
    Apparently my Y STR is very rare. And apparently I can also test using FTDNA's single SNP test, but it is not fully guaranteed. I am not exactly sure what this all means, but I want to find out my subclade and as much as possible.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Hi it seems that I have transferred my Geno 1 test results to FTDNA. But I do not know how to post the results here.
    The reason why I am doing this is because I took the YDNA 67 marker test, but I am being told that in order to find out my exact subclade I need to take the Geno 2.0.
    I am O2b-M176
    but we are not sure if I am O2b1b-K4 or O2b1b1-L682 or O2b1b2-K3
    Apparently my Y STR is very rare. And apparently I can also test using FTDNA's single SNP test, but it is not fully guaranteed. I am not exactly sure what this all means, but I want to find out my subclade and as much as possible.
    Thanks
    Geno 2.0 is a useless test, on your My Account page you may have an option to buy something like this
    Get all SNPs downstream of M267 for only $99!

    Remove the guess work. Save money!
    Test all SNPs downstream of M267.
    107 total SNPs including M267.

    $99

    Which possibly will get you closer to your Terminal SNP than Geno 2.0 can, check if they have such a SNPs Penal for haplogroup O.

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    Quote Originally Posted by paulgill View Post
    Geno 2.0 is a useless test, on your My Account page you may have an option to buy something like this
    Get all SNPs downstream of M267 for only $99!

    Remove the guess work. Save money!
    Test all SNPs downstream of M267.
    107 total SNPs including M267.

    $99

    Which possibly will get you closer to your Terminal SNP than Geno 2.0 can, check if they have such a SNPs Penal for haplogroup O.
    Hi I could not find the "Get all SNPs downstream of M267 for only $99!"
    Nor could I find My account page.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Hi I could not find the "Get all SNPs downstream of M267 for only $99!"
    Nor could I find My account page.
    Thanks
    You don't need J1 M267, as J1 is not your haplogroup, whatever haplogroup you belong to, send an enquiry to FTDNA and ask them if they have a SNPs Panel for your haplogroup and that is what you need to test for, better yet that you get advice from your project administrator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hando View Post
    Hi it seems that I have transferred my Geno 1 test results to FTDNA. But I do not know how to post the results here.
    The reason why I am doing this is because I took the YDNA 67 marker test, but I am being told that in order to find out my exact subclade I need to take the Geno 2.0.
    I am O2b-M176
    but we are not sure if I am O2b1b-K4 or O2b1b1-L682 or O2b1b2-K3
    Apparently my Y STR is very rare. And apparently I can also test using FTDNA's single SNP test, but it is not fully guaranteed. I am not exactly sure what this all means, but I want to find out my subclade and as much as possible.
    Thanks
    Did you join O...O3 Y-DNA Haplogroup Project? https://www.familytreedna.com/public...ction=yresults

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