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    Depressed that 23andme gave me R1b-l21

    Im bummed out that i have this lame haplotype R1b1b2a1a2f* Is exactly what they gave me

    now i dont know if i should trust them or save up for a FTDNA test.

    im considering Wrapping it up if i really am a R-l21 loser

    would i be the first guy ever to kill himself over a haplotype test if i did?

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    What specifically is your problem with being L21?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurt W View Post
    Im bummed out that i have this lame haplotype R1b1b2a1a2f* Is exactly what they gave me

    now i dont know if i should trust them or save up for a FTDNA test.

    im considering Wrapping it up if i really am a R-l21 loser

    would i be the first guy ever to kill himself over a haplotype test if i did?
    I take it you are not a fan of L21, father of Big Daddy DF13? What haplogroup, that was not 'R', were you expecting?

    L11 is father to the largest most common European lineage, east to west increasing with over 110 million men according to MHammer starting ~5kya. Maybe your an outlier whose ancestors left the fold early and went to the near east or just stayed home in Western Asia.

    You should at least be interested in where you exactly fit under L21 for reference. You might find that your ancestors have been settled for several millennium. 23andme list of SNPs on a Chip is woefully out of date. I would suggest you take the YSEQ R1b-L21 Super-Clade Orientation Panel since it will further define your derived mutations under L21.

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    =Gurt W";78905]Im bummed out have this lame haplotype R1b1b2a1a2f* Is exactly what they gave me

    now i dont know if i should trust them or save up for a FTDNA test.

    im considering Wrapping it up if i really am a R-l21 loser

    would i be the first guy ever to kill himself over a haplotype test if i did?
    I hear you. L21 is so "Celtic Fringe" Who Wants To be Irish, Welsh, Scottish, or heaven forbid...English? I'm so thankful I'm U152!. A true "Continental Celt" (autosomally I'm 80% British and Irish).

    EDIT: Apparently people aren't picking up on my subtle humor here (see post below). Before anyone takes my comments above serious, I'm KIDDING!!! I am mostly, English, Scottish, Welsh, and Irish i.e. "celtic fringe" (meant also as a joke). This thread has forced me go back to my old pie chart avatar picture!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    I hear you. L21 is so "Celtic Fringe" Who Wants To be Irish, Welsh, Scottish, or heaven forbid...English? I'm so thankful I'm U152!. A true "Continental Celt" (autosomally I'm 80% British and Irish).
    You show five of six northwestern country flags. Every L11>P312 Subclade ARE the 'true "Continental Celts".

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    Last edited by MJost; 04-12-2015 at 04:05 PM. Reason: Corrected to show P312
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    Watterson USA GD1/67 & GD3/111, *5508+. GD1ís fatherís sister-23andme pred. 3rd Cous w/ 0.91% DNA shared-3 seg. Largest on Chr1 w/non-Euro admix affirms my NPE paternal Watterson line via aDNA & YDNA. A 2nd pred. 4th cous has same DKA b. 1840's Georgia and MDKA d 1703 IOM. 3rd Cousin FtDNA FF is from the Watterson Ala. *5538+ b. IOM w/ GD6/67 & GD8/111 -SGD3. FGC5539+ a Scot-Ross GD13/111 -SGD8

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    how do i take the YSEQ R1b-L21 Super-Clade Orientation Pane I would be interested as i really have no idea who my immigrant ancestor was (May have been a heugenot)

    anyway i was hoping to be able to prove i was decended from a Badass germanic barbarian... but not with the l-21.. i geuss.

    At least my moms U4a1a is more uniqe...

    but i know her furthest female ancestor was a German.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurt W View Post
    how do i take the YSEQ R1b-L21 Super-Clade Orientation Pane I would be interested as i really have no idea who my immigrant ancestor was (May have been a heugenot)

    anyway i was hoping to be able to prove i was decended from a Badass germanic barbarian... but not with the l-21.. i geuss.

    At least my moms U4a1a is more uniqe...

    but i know her furthest female ancestor was a German.
    You could be L21* but that would be rare. You have a 99% chance to be part of "Big Daddy DF13", the original ancient Celtic version of 'Nail of Nine or 'Genghis Khan'.

    For this exceptional price, the L21 panel test will confirm you belong to L21*, DF13 or DF63. DF13 has 20+ subclades you will be tested for here:
    http://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=4321

    Make sure you put in the notes you are L21+ from 23andme.


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    if i have a 99% chance of being DF13 whats the point in me spending 80$.

    Anywase i requested 23andme to re analyze my results because they came in so fast... under 2 weeks i think they rushed them.

    What is the L21 panel test anyway is that another DNA kit thingy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MJost View Post
    You show five of six northwestern country flags. Every L11>P312 Subclade ARE the 'true "Continental Celts".

    MJost
    It was a joke...hence the . I added the parentheses with my ancestry to point out the irony of my previous statement...I guess it was still too subtle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gurt W View Post
    if i have a 99% chance of being DF13 whats the point in me spending 80$.

    Anywase i requested 23andme to re analyze my results because they came in so fast... under 2 weeks i think they rushed them.

    What is the L21 panel test anyway is that another DNA kit thingy.
    Since you so negative and didn't read the post I made concerning being positive for one of 20+ branches, I really don't care to follow-up with an answer.

    Good luck.

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