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    New Ancient DNA list in test from Near East, Bakans, Caucasia and Central Asia

    New Ancient DNA list in test from Near East, Bakans, Caucasia and Central Asia

    New discussions are so close. Most of the samples from early Neolithic and Mesolithic

    https://sites.google.com/site/pinhasierc/home/samples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabasis View Post
    New Ancient DNA list in test from Near East, Bakans, Caucasia and Central Asia

    New discussions are so close. Most of the samples from early Neolithic and Mesolithic

    https://sites.google.com/site/pinhasierc/home/samples
    That is terrific! I am sure we all can't wait to hear about these results!

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    Even only %30 of those burials yields results, it would be great database.

    BTW there are not still any sample from Early Neolithic Mesopotamia. Samples from Turkey are Early Neolithic from Western Anatolia. Iranian samples would be nice.

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    Excellent! It's about time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabasis View Post
    Even only %30 of those burials yields results, it would be great database.

    BTW there are not still any sample from Early Neolithic Mesopotamia. Samples from Turkey are Early Neolithic from Western Anatolia. Iranian samples would be nice.
    6 Mesolithic-Early Neolithic samples from northern Iran are listed and 2 Early Neolithic samples from Israel, so if aDNA is actually recoverable (fingers crossed) they should be very informative. It's no substitute for Mesopotamia, but that's not really the place for fieldwork right now.

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    Are they getting full genomic scans? Or are they just going to make those half-decent Y-dna studies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Baibars View Post
    Are they getting full genomic scans? Or are they just going to make those half-decent Y-dna studies.
    What do you understand from the project defination? It seems type of the aDNA test is not so clear yet.

    https://sites.google.com/site/pinhas...ect-definition

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabasis View Post
    Even only %30 of those burials yields results, it would be great database.

    BTW there are not still any sample from Early Neolithic Mesopotamia. Samples from Turkey are Early Neolithic from Western Anatolia. Iranian samples would be nice.
    I'm sure they would love to have samples from Mesopotamia but considering what the region is going through right now I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Their best bet would be to look for aDNA in the Iraqi and Iranian Kurdistan regions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomasso29 View Post
    I'm sure they would love to have samples from Mesopotamia but considering what the region is going through right now I doubt it will happen anytime soon. Their best bet would be to look for aDNA in the Iraqi and Iranian Kurdistan regions.
    A shame indeed.
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster
    maternal-gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    maternal-gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    maternal-ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    paternal-ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    paternal-ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

    other:
    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anabasis View Post
    What do you understand from the project defination? It seems type of the aDNA test is not so clear yet.

    https://sites.google.com/site/pinhas...ect-definition
    : Successful NGS of captured ancient mtDNA has already been performed for several species within the proposed collaboration.

    Y chromosome sequencing is pursued by first performing a simple PCR test using a few small Y specific DNA fragments to sex test samples. SNPs will be typed by capture as above.


    In the case of samples with good endogenous yields, we focus on the following:

    1. The analysis of priority gene sequences which code for important phenotypic traits many of which are postulated to have changed and/or undergone strong selection in European prehistory. These include 100 genes in categories of (a) pigmentation, (b) dietary change, e.g. lactase persistence (c) genes known to be involved in susceptibility to infectious diseases, e.g. CCR5, TLRs and mendelian disorders eg

    CFTR, HFE; (d) genes emerging from GWAS studies suspected to be involved in physical traits such as stature, e.g. GPR133, HMGA1, HMGA2. Note that the data that emerges from the 1000 genomes project will give a rich context within which to analyse these results.
    2. We are particularly interested in the study of Single Nucleotide Polymorphisms (SNPs) with strong phylogeographical structure. A strong worldwide data collec tion is available, particularly from European populations. This provides a very rich context for ancient work especially as analyses show that such data gives excellent resolution of genetic-geography structure at the level of individual samples.

    Examination of ancient bones with similar data enables interrogation of the time depth of European genetic structure and is also a tool for complementing other analyses of migration
    looks disappointing to be honest, i don't think more Y-DNA/MTDNA will be more scientifically useful. We need something as ambitious and serious as the lazardis/reich study on ANE/WHG. Full genomic scans seem to be the most meaningful way to explore genetic relationships.


    EDIT: Ignore my above comment. I'm bit stupid and scatterbrained today. Apparently this is the same format as lazardis/reich study, I think. Lets just hope they're succesful. They're doing Next generation scans. Which are full genomic scans, if i'm not wrong. I think our part of the world is finally getting some aDNA justice. At

    I'm most excited about these:

    Hotu Cave, Belt Cave - Iran:EN, MES

    and

    Central Asian and Russian and Ukrainian Neolithic -Central Asia: Neol


    I wish they had also gotten a hold of loorestan and khuzestan samples. But oh well, you can't have everything.
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