The big R1b project - update

[TigerMW]

We've crossed over the 6,900 mark for members in the R1b project. This is good because as people upgrade to 67 STRs and do SNP testing we help place them in the right major "home" subclade (of R1b) project, such as ht35, U106, P312, U152, DF27, etc.

Even after finding "home", by staying in the group they become good models for others and get included in the R1b_Haplotypes 67 STR comparison file where we can look at genetic distances and STR signatures on the same report with SNP results. This should help people find you and your haplogroup, even if the match does not show up on the FTDNA matching screen (due to GD limits).

The "big picture" tree is on the "About" page.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about

The "Background" tab from the About pages shows how the project operates:
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

The "Results" tab from the About pages shows how to find the key reports and has descriptions and links to a variety of sources including scientific papers about R1b.
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about/results

If you see any facts or links that are incorrect, please reply here.

R1b is marked by M343+, but this includes the M269+ or P25+ people and all of the downstream SNPs like P312, L21, U106, etc, .etc. You might think of this as an umbrella project. If some one is R-M269, R-M343, R-P25 or anything in R1b and not sure where they fit, please have them join this project.

[icebreaker]

Cool. I just joined this project (I'm #320190).

[David Mc]

... Even after finding "home", by staying in the group they become good models for others and get included in the R1b_Haplotypes 67 STR comparison file where we can look at genetic distances and STR signatures on the same report with SNP results. This should help people find you and your haplogroup, even if the match does not show up on the FTDNA matching screen (due to GD limits)...
https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/r-1b/about

Hi Mike,
I just joined (216031). I've been part of the R-L21 project for ages and the DF49 project for a goodly while. Great idea encouraging people to go back farther to help others plot themselves in with existing SNPs.

[TigerMW]

Hi Mike,
I just joined (216031). I've been part of the R-L21 project for ages and the DF49 project for a goodly while. Great idea encouraging people to go back farther to help others plot themselves in with existing SNPs.

Thanks, David and Icebreaker. This does help, in fact it is essential.

[TigerMW]

We've had an acceleration in growth recently in the R1b project. This is a chart from the project statistics taken this morning. We are over 8,500 people in the project. This has grown 600 people in last week and a half.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ect_Growth.pdf

I'm encouraging people to upgrade to 111 Y STRs while they are on sale. Here is more background on the project; and the haplotype and gateway services provided.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

Co-admin Gail R has been fantastic in supporting the project! Thanks to her we have some order.

This is all good for the large subclade of R1b projects too. I've stayed up late the last couple of nights joining people to sub projects.

[VinceT]

We've had an acceleration in growth recently in the R1b project. This is a chart from the project statistics taken this morning. We are over 8,500 people in the project. This has grown 600 people in last week and a half.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...ect_Growth.pdf

I'm encouraging people to upgrade to 111 Y STRs while they are on sale. Here is more background on the project; and the haplotype and gateway services provided.

https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

Co-admin Gail R has been fantastic in supporting the project! Thanks to her we have some order.

This is all good for the large subclade of R1b projects too. I've stayed up late the last couple of nights joining people to sub projects.

Wow, congrats! The trendline for that graph now looks like a 5th degree polynomial. Be prepared to hit 100,000 members by Dec. 2020!

[VinceT]

Or: that trend looks overbought. Expect a major correction shortly... lol

[TigerMW]

is there any chance that FTDNA will relax their maximum GD of 10, so that people who have long ago upgraded to 111 STRs can see some results?

Not that I know of. This is the much of the reason I started downloading haplotypes and doing my GDs and STR off-modal tracking. It was an effort to build my deep ancestral relative base, people related 600 to 1500 years ago to me.

I plan on extending the R1b_Haplotypes spreadsheet with a 111 STR only version and make it just 111 STR and Big Y tested folks so that others can see if they can get lucky in leveraging 111 STR results.

[Eochaidh]

I plan on extending the R1b_Haplotypes spreadsheet with a 111 STR only version and make it just 111 STR and Big Y tested folks so that others can see if they can get lucky in leveraging 111 STR results.

Thanks, you helped me with this in mid 2013 and one of the closest matches that you found turns out to br R1b>M222>FGC4077>A725 with me.

[TigerMW]

Thanks, you helped me with this in mid 2013 and one of the closest matches that you found turns out to br R1b>M222>FGC4077>A725 with me.

You are welcome. Thank you for letting me know Eochaidh as I appreciate it. A lot of these things do work nicely but it is easy to get bogged down and forget about the progress. The lift is appreciated.