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Thread: DF98 - House of Wettin - royal BigY test

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    Quote Originally Posted by BYLM View Post
    Same origin for Houses of Wettin and Bourbon ? : ...
    Source: https://file.scirp.org/pdf/AA_2019013117102906.pdf
    The author of this paper (Gérard Lucotte) has a checkered reputation. Someone has written an unflattering article about him in the French Wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rard_Lucotte

    The U106 Haplogroup Project at FTDNA has attempted to contact him without any reply to date.

    Given the author's notoriety, the U106 Project does not accept the results of this paper without independent verification. Since it is reported where a FTDNA Big Y test was in the works for the Bourbon individual, the project hopes to would be able to access the FTDNA results at some point in the future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing Genealogist View Post
    The author of this paper (Gérard Lucotte) has a checkered reputation. Someone has written an unflattering article about him in the French Wikipedia https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%A9rard_Lucotte

    The U106 Haplogroup Project at FTDNA has attempted to contact him without any reply to date.

    Given the author's notoriety, the U106 Project does not accept the results of this paper without independent verification. Since it is reported where a FTDNA Big Y test was in the works for the Bourbon individual, the project hopes to would be able to access the FTDNA results at some point in the future.
    ahh wasn't aware of the reputation being in question - yes it would be nice to have the Big Y results to prove it etc...
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    Hello

    i have be tested positive for S1911
    i read it is the haplogroup of drif3 and could be related with Odard (Dutton) ,a Cotentin knight
    My paper trail is entirely breton
    Can you tell me more about S1911?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    Hello

    i have be tested positive for S1911
    i read it is the haplogroup of drif3 and could be related with Odard (Dutton) ,a Cotentin knight
    My paper trail is entirely breton
    Can you tell me more about S1911?
    The leading expert regarding DF98 and its subclades (including S1911) is Dr Iain McDonald. While he occasionally visits this forum, he is much more active in the U106 Yahoogroup forum. If you have not already joined this forum, you can join by sending an email to: r1b1c_u106-s21-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and briefly state why you would like to join.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wing Genealogist View Post
    The leading expert regarding DF98 and its subclades (including S1911) is Dr Iain McDonald. While he occasionally visits this forum, he is much more active in the U106 Yahoogroup forum. If you have not already joined this forum, you can join by sending an email to: r1b1c_u106-s21-subscribe@yahoogroups.com and briefly state why you would like to join.

    Yes
    I have already registered (this very morning!)
    thanks for the information

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    What about new Hungarian branch into DF98. S18823 * is it Huns or period of Avar khanate, or time of Magyar invasion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
    What about new Hungarian branch into DF98. S18823 * is it Huns or period of Avar khanate, or time of Magyar invasion
    What surname and MDKA is it for the S18823 Hungarian Branch? I have been trying to log into U106 DNA project list at FTDNA but it always times out... and doesn't take me to the DF98 section of the project... getting quite annoying!

    -Charlie

    Edit and is it a sub group under S18823? That SNP is still pretty old etc...
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    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trelvern View Post
    Yes
    I have already registered (this very morning!)
    thanks for the information
    Hello it's Charlie from the U106 forum... great to have a Breton in our midsts in S1911 - here is a video for you - you should recognize the song if it plays it's Son ar rost I think... played on the Irish pipes - on my father's side I have some Scots-Irish and Scots from Pennsylvania, but on my mother's side I have confirmed via DNA matches from my kit and my Uncles (and soon my mother's) our direct descent from some very famous native nobility Gaelic Irish and Scots Highlander families who were all Jacobite... so naturally I listen to A LOT of Irish and Scots traditional music ;-). Enjoy! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9j9YbKzZBw
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    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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    No, it is an absolutely new branch in future, now we have only 1 person from Hungary SZ with S18823*. And I think maybe it will be several men in future. And I suspect that I will be in this new branch or somewhere near
    I suspect that there is a new east direction in the DF98. A branch from Hungary goes further to Moldova, Ukraine and further to Central Asia - Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S18823*/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scat View Post
    No, it is an absolutely new branch in future, now we have only 1 person from Hungary SZ with S18823*. And I think maybe it will be several men in future. And I suspect that I will be in this new branch or somewhere near
    I suspect that there is a new east direction in the DF98. A branch from Hungary goes further to Moldova, Ukraine and further to Central Asia - Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kazakhstan
    https://www.yfull.com/tree/R-S18823*/
    More data the better Scat and make sure to say hi for me and I welcome them to DF98 etc... ! Make sure you and everyone stop by and join the U106 yahoo forum where Dr. Iain McDonald our DF98 group leader hangs out and many of the others here if you haven't already: https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/R1b1c_U106-S21/info

    Cheers,
    Charlie
    Y-DNA: 4th GGF Adam Weaver born 1785 in Pennsylvania (most likely German) - Sergeant, US 17th Inf, War of 1812: R1b-U106-Z381-Z156-Z305/306/307-Z304-DF98-S1911-S1894/S1900-S4004/FGC14818/FGC14823-FGC14816/FGC14817 shared with 6drif-3!

    mtDNA: 3rd GGM Bridget Dana b. 1843 Ireland - T2b2b - Pagan Migrant Icelander SSG-A3 (grave 4?) - Sķlastašir in Eyjafjaršarsżsla, North Iceland is T2b2b. Relative of King Bela III of Hungary (his Y-DNA and autosomal kinsman buried near him had mtDNA T2b2b1)!

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