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    Question Which one of your ancestral lines do you have the most connection to?

    This probably a slightly philosophical question, however its one I find quite interesting in the context of what we learn from genealogy and genetics.

    Is there an ancestral line, big or small, you feel like you have the most connection to and/or can relate to the most? This might be because of how you were raised and what you were taught, or maybe you developed a connection through your own family research. On one hand, our most recent ancestry could be considered the one we have the greatest connection to, however our more distant ethnic origins could be said to be closer to where we come from.

    For me when I was I child, I wasn't told anything about our family history. My grandmother would mix English/Croatian if she was angry (I didn't know what it was) and I had an uncle with a different accent (Croatian). All I knew was I was a New Zealander (which is really just a nationality, it isn't an ethnicity). It wasn't until I was in my teens my father told me a bit about our Croatian family. I didn't have a chance to meet my great grandparents however I was told they were both from Croatia.

    My great grandfather went to New Zealand as a kauri gum digger to make money to send back to Croatia for the family. He gave my father a piece of his kauri gum which he's passed down to me. When I started researching my family history I found out so much more, not only about the Croatian side, but all sides of the family.

    You could say I have the greatest connection to Croatia because of its closeness to myself (which is true, my Croatian great grandparents were my earliest ancestors from another country). Even though the majority of my ancestry is British, I wasn't raised with British customs. Because New Zealand and Australia were built upon British principles, you could say every New Zealander is raised that way so it doesn't feel any different.

    I respect my British side (I have an English surname) but I don't wave an English flag or anything like that. If most New Zealanders did, the nation wouldn't have many supporters of the All Blacks

    New Zealand, like Australia, is a nation build by migrants who quite often wanted a better life for their families. There is no doubt this is the same for the USA, Canada, South Africa etc. I respect all of my ancestral lines, big and small, because without them I wouldn't be here today. We all want to feel like we belong to something and besides being a New Zealander, I feel like I can mostly relate to my Balkan ancestry because I was around it when I was a child, and my father has stories about his grandparents which made me feel connected to a place far away from where I was from.

    Plus, if your grandmother bakes Kroštule then you know what you'll be connect to
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    Good question. I think many of us concentrate on a line from which we got an ailment or a characteristic.

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    I identify with all my ancestries year-round...among them German, Scots, and English but on March 17th, I especially identify with my roots in Londonderry and counties Cavan and Monaghan!
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    I identify a lot with my Basque lineage even though is it only a small paternal percentage, but ever since I was a little kid I was always told that we were "Basque" and were we came from. On the other hand after taking a DNA test I found out I carry 3.6% Native American DNA which mostly come from my Paternal Grandmother who has 5% NA DNA, but unfortunately there is no paper trail, so that is a lineage that I wish I could connect to. Aside from that I have some small North African(through my Paternal Grandmother) who has 7/16 Great-Great Grandparents from the Canary Islands, but the Italian and Iberian components of my ancestry make up over 80% of it, so I guess I mostly identify as being of Iberian and Italian descent.

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    All of them! A cousin of mine is in the process of testing her mtDNA (same as my father's mother's mother's father's mtDNA). I'm just as excited to learn about that line as any other line.

    I do have a slight preference for "oddball" lineages, though: there's more of a story to them.
     

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    Well, I didn't really get choices, so I guess the only one I have

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    I identify with 2 geniological lines

    the first, stereotypically, is my Y line...in part because of 'my fathers, fathers, fathers name' and such, in part because I was raised to be 'Irish' (meaning cultural traditions, values and beliefs)
    ... and while I have Irish roots from many different lines, my grandmother Whalen (who was Irish, Irish-Scots) was a huge influence not only on me, but the whole family-the classic 'power behind the throne' sort of Gma, everyone loved her, no one crossed her, she also was by far the longest lived, so for me at least, there was no other G-parent to offer a different view
    ...finally, it is my Y line that I have had the most trouble with going back genealogy wise...it was my 'stone wall' with my great great grandfather Patrick Whealen, the guy that moved us from Ireland to Canada, that caused me to get into the DNA geniology as a way of breaking down the wall...that did not happen, I still do not know exactly where he was born or what his fathers first name was, but it did open a really fun and exciting line of inquiry with my NPE family, the Irish Vances
    ...all my other lines, I was able to go back farther, and particularly because of the great work 2 cousins on my moms side, I never had to work at them at all...but the Whalen line was a frustrating dead end!

    The 2nd line I identify with, is my moms mothers (Mdna) Newfoundland roots line (yes, the Newfies!-I got into more than a few fights as a kid when someone would say that in a disparaging sort of way)
    ...growing up, I was closest to that bunch of cousins and aunts, and every summer spent many weeks out at their camp on Lake Superior
    ...again, when it came to traditions, values, ways of speaking and such, the English-Irish Newfie influence was very strong and still a very comfortable environment for me

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    I identify mainly with my y-dna line, I guess probably in large part due to the fact that it is the one connected to the surname I have borne as long as I can remember. The fact that I am a male is also a factor, since I have always identified with my father and, by extension, his father, and so on.

    It's funny though, because growing up I had a lot more contact with my mother's side of the family, and they were and are great people (many of the best of them have now passed on, sad to say).

    One reason I concentrate my genealogical efforts on my y-dna line is because my mother's paternal line pedigree is well established all the way back to Malmesbury, Wiltshire, England in the 17th century, so there never seemed to be much urgency or mystery involved with it. My own paternal line, however, begins or dead-ends with my 3rd great grandfather, who was born in 1804 in Wheeling, West Virginia, which is within reasonable driving distance of where I now live. Thus my y-dna line is wide open for research and discovery. Exploring it by means of y-dna testing has been very rewarding and satisfying, although I am far from done.
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    I probably most indentify with my Y/Surname line as well. I am a Webb, and very proud of it. Myself and my cousins all have some sort of spider web tattoo, mine with Webb in the middle in Old English. However, that was before I knew I was P312>DF27, or I might have chosen a different font. I find it very cool that my surname is virtually unchanged since the use of Old English, a weaver would have been either a Webbe or a Webba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juba View Post
    Well, I didn't really get choices, so I guess the only one I have
    Which one is that if you don't mind my asking?

    It gets pretty confusing for me as I'm an American mutt. I do appreciate all that I have been able to uncover about my roots through DNA testing and paper trail records, and a great aunt fessing up about our ancestry too. I guess I mostly identify with my maternal grandfather's family. They are the Italians who are really Albanians. Anyway I grew up being around this part of the family more. This side was very large too, as my grandfather had seven siblings. I also resemble family from this branch.

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