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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutorigos View Post
    In AncestryDNA terminology the average Celtic or Irish, Welsh and Scottish admixture for Ulster is only 52%.

    Connacht 76.7%
    Leinster 71.8%
    Munster 71.4%
    Ulster 51.9%



    Even though AncestryDNA uses a different technology or algorithm for its genetic communities it says I am :

    52% Ireland, Scotland, Wales
    37% British (Anglo-Saxon)
    6% Scandinavian etc...

    It says my only genetic community is Ulster Irish. Since the mainland Scottish are intermediate between the native Irish/Welsh and English/Germanics genetically this suggests that the Ulster Irish are perhaps genetically closer to Scots than southern Irish.
    That is because much of the native Irish Catholic population of Ulster was ethnically cleansed by British invaders.

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    Anyone here interested in participating in this project?

    https://anthrogenica.com/showthread....Lukasz-K47-PCA

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    Well, I am from Northern Ireland and I have 88% Celtic and 12% Europe and Asia.

    My Genetic Communities are Ulster Irish and Scotland.

    I'm not convinced that the Celtic community is shorthand for Ireland only.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teutorigos View Post
    I am American but if I had to guess the so called native Ulster Irish are a mix of Irish, Scottish, and English because my paternal grandfather was from Donegal and his wife was English or an English/Scottish mix. My maternal grandfather was Southern Irish and his wife mostly German with some French.

    Where am I going with this ? AncestryDNA insists that my only genetic community is Ulster Irish and it says the connection is likely. In regards to the German/ French admixture I guess it is just being seen as Anglo-Saxon or a Saxon/Norman mix.

    My GEDmatch kit number is A703943
    I'm Northern Irish and have Ulster Irish and Scotland as Genetic communities.

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    I imagine the 2015 blog from Ancestry reflects a inflection in time when the AncestryDNA database for Irish samples was quite small. It's only in last year or so that they have gotten publicity here in Ireland, for example on Late Late Show as well as tv adds. In general I've only seen levels of 70-75% for irish component in people from Greater Dublin region. It would help of course if Ancestry did an update blog post with regards to various components and their frequency.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqp15hhu View Post
    I'm Northern Irish and have Ulster Irish and Scotland as Genetic communities.
    There is no such thing as "Northern Irish". You are either British or Irish.

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    Not sure I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubhthach View Post
    I imagine the 2015 blog from Ancestry reflects a inflection in time when the AncestryDNA database for Irish samples was quite small. It's only in last year or so that they have gotten publicity here in Ireland, for example on Late Late Show as well as tv adds. In general I've only seen levels of 70-75% for irish component in people from Greater Dublin region. It would help of course if Ancestry did an update blog post with regards to various components and their frequency.
    I'm 81% Ireland/Scotland/Wales. My father is 86% and my mother is 89%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cilldara View Post
    I'm 81% Ireland/Scotland/Wales. My father is 86% and my mother is 89%.
    I got 89% myself, but my parents are 94% and 95%, makes me think that the older tests (myself) might get lower scores as they had smaller database. Though I will admit that I did get 90% 'British and Irish' in 23andme, so it's possible that small segments are causing confusion when it comes to trace regions (Resulting in lower level compared to my parents). I do wonder though if I retook ancestry test if I would get a much different result.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kevinduffy View Post
    There is no such thing as "Northern Irish". You are either British or Irish.
    Thanks for your contributions to the forum. My last name is O'Hair and my O'Hair ancestor came from County Down, Ireland which is in Northern Ireland now.

    My late O'Hair uncle is an autosomal match to a lady (I share less DNA with her.) with an Ulster Scot maiden name who lives in County Down. I have been corresponding with her. The following shows her ancestry is both Gaelic Irish and British, with the British part being Ulster Scot for sure, and she probably has some Ulster English ancestry. She said her Presbyterian father spoke fluent Irish and her mother was Catholic. She mentioned that her maiden name was Ulster Scot. She also had a Catholic O'Hare great grandmother who married a Protestant.

    About 3 hours ago I messaged her and asked her a question. I asked her about what ethnicity she identifies herself. She said she is a little odd as she considers herself to be both British and Irish. She said she supposes that if she was pushed about it she would consider herself to be Northern Irish.

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