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    My brother's results.

     
    Dodecad K12b
    Distance: 0.8790% / 0.87904303
    Target: Markos | ADC: 0.5x RC
    68.0 Greek_Athens
    21.8 Greek_Foca
    8.4 Balkan_Gypsy
    1.8 Greek_Lemnos

    G25 Modern
    Distance: 1.4201% / 0.01420105
    Target: Markos_scaled
    41.5 Greek_Peloponnese
    39.5 Greek_Crete
    10.0 Roma_Barcelona
    9.0 Greek_Thessaly

    Eurogenes K13
    Distance: 1.6988% / 1.69878934
    Target: Markos | ADC: 0.25x RC
    65.3 Greek_West
    29.1 Greek_Symi_Island
    5.6 Gypsy_Wallachia


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    Quote Originally Posted by Markos View Post
    My brother's results.

    How much Roma is he? Looks pretty low. Seeing such a result I would guess 1/16-1/8.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Riverman View Post
    How much Roma is he? Looks pretty low. Seeing such a result I would guess 1/16-1/8.
    Yeah, we are around there. We did not grow up with Roma culture/language because it was hidden from the family. Even our dad didn't know.

    (But from a DNA point of view, it absolutely amazes me how Romani migration out of South Asia, 1,000 years ago, still exists and is an unavoidable component in our autosomal results, especially since we are primarily Greek in our genetic profile).
    Last edited by Markos; 03-04-2021 at 02:14 PM.
     
    Dodecad K12b
    Distance: 0.8790% / 0.87904303
    Target: Markos | ADC: 0.5x RC
    68.0 Greek_Athens
    21.8 Greek_Foca
    8.4 Balkan_Gypsy
    1.8 Greek_Lemnos

    G25 Modern
    Distance: 1.4201% / 0.01420105
    Target: Markos_scaled
    41.5 Greek_Peloponnese
    39.5 Greek_Crete
    10.0 Roma_Barcelona
    9.0 Greek_Thessaly

    Eurogenes K13
    Distance: 1.6988% / 1.69878934
    Target: Markos | ADC: 0.25x RC
    65.3 Greek_West
    29.1 Greek_Symi_Island
    5.6 Gypsy_Wallachia


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    My daughters results
    15670E1A-F3E9-4CD8-B524-8A8287149783.jpeg

    One odd thing is that I apparently gave her 4% West Asian. Itís listed as me giving her Iranian, Caucasian, Mesopotamian but my West Asian is Anatolian and I score 0% Iranian, Cauc, Meso
    Last edited by digital_noise; 03-04-2021 at 10:17 PM.
    distance%=4.6465"
    Barcin_N,47.2
    Yamnaya_Samara,41.4
    WHG,10.6
    Ethiopia_4500BP,0.8

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    My daughters results
    15670E1A-F3E9-4CD8-B524-8A8287149783.jpeg

    One odd thing is that I apparently gave her 4% West Asian. It’s listed as me giving her Iranian, Caucasian, Mesopotamian but my West Asian is Anatolian and I score 0% Iranian, Cauc, Meso
    I saw many odd phased results recently. Wonder whether it really works out that well. Anyway, it could be because you have small segments of West Asian which were embedded in an European environment. Because of the mixture in your daughter, these segments now being counted as West Asian instead of European, because many "European neighbours" disappeared. That's the smoothing effect - in you it deleted small West Asian, in your daughter not as much or even the other way around, deleting small European.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digital_noise View Post
    My daughters results
    15670E1A-F3E9-4CD8-B524-8A8287149783.jpeg

    One odd thing is that I apparently gave her 4% West Asian. It’s listed as me giving her Iranian, Caucasian, Mesopotamian but my West Asian is Anatolian and I score 0% Iranian, Cauc, Meso
    It may be the smoothing. Mine and my children’s results are different. I give my son more French and German than I possess for example. With our tests we are all mainly Northwest European. So that’s what it’s actually saying in both. Whether they’re calling it British/Irish/French/German/Broadly... I don’t think they can tell any of it apart. That may be the case with your daughter’s West Asian as well. They can’t really tell one West Asian ethnicity from another. Just my take. Also with mine, brother’s and daughter’s Asian results, they move around Asia every update. Right now, I have two separate versions of myself on there. A V4 to 5 upgrade and an Ancestry upload they allowed a few years ago. The test my daughter is phased with gives her a segment of Broadly Central And South Asian from me. It’s I think British and Irishfor me on my V5. It’s Malayali Subgroup (Southwest India) on my Ancestry upload. Supposedly the child’s phased results are more accurate than the parents. At least that’s how it’s supposed to work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefanie View Post
    It may be the smoothing. Mine and my children’s results are different. I give my son more French and German than I possess for example. With our tests we are all mainly Northwest European. So that’s what it’s actually saying in both. Whether they’re calling it British/Irish/French/German/Broadly... I don’t think they can tell any of it apart. That may be the case with your daughter’s West Asian as well. They can’t really tell one West Asian ethnicity from another. Just my take. Also with mine, brother’s and daughter’s Asian results, they move around Asia every update. Right now, I have two separate versions of myself on there. A V4 to 5 upgrade and an Ancestry upload they allowed a few years ago. The test my daughter is phased with gives her a segment of Broadly Central And South Asian from me. It’s I think British and Irishfor me on my V5. It’s Malayali Subgroup (Southwest India) on my Ancestry upload. Supposedly the child’s phased results are more accurate than the parents. At least that’s how it’s supposed to work.
    Good example. Its really segment based. Let's just assume segment X appears both in German and French, or Italian and West Asian, its the same segment, how do you assign it? Smoothing just means they use the safe spots, like a neighbouring, clearly European segment as the indicator. So the essentially neutral segments becomes what the clear neighbour is. If the neighbour changes, the neutral segments assignments does so too.
    There is no difference, they can't tell where it was coming from for sure, its present in both populations. The only other choice would be "undeclared" or giving it just one side, which could irritate members of the other group. So its an elegant solution, but with the predictable outcome in mixed individuals of changing from parents to children.

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    My 23 and me results, pretty straightforward:

    Screenshot_20210307-171841.png

    Regions. I will comment in light of their claim that those are places where my ancestors lived in past 200 years:

    Likely match

    Bosnia and Herzegovina (wrong)

    Bulgaria 10 regions out of 28 (they nailed Blagoevgrad and Kyustendil provinces and possibly Montana (my BigY match is from there))

    Greece 9 regions out of 14 (wrong)

    Serbia 10 regions out of 24 (50% success)

    They completely missed my Montenegrin and likely Malesor (N Albania) origins.

    Y haplogroup: E-V13

    mtDna: H5'36

    However the most valuable thing for me in these tests are matches, i dont pay that much attention to their estimates.
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    Here's my Finnish results. My Scandinavian has been gradually going down with each new update. What's weird is that in the last update I had 0.7% French & German, yet that chromosome is now completely Finnish. You'd think it'd be easy to separate the two.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Petroskoijari View Post
    Here's my Finnish results. My Scandinavian has been gradually going down with each new update. What's weird is that in the last update I had 0.7% French & German, yet that chromosome is now completely Finnish. You'd think it'd be easy to separate the two.

    Chances are its old German in Finnish. That way it can be counted both ways.

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