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    23andMe Cheapskate question

    I see that 23andMe is having a $99 sale. I was going to spring for a $199 (on sale) FamilyFinder test from FTDNA. Will I get the same thing and more for cheaper or will I be happier with the FTDNA test that gives better and more complete information? In this economy I want to get the most bang for my buck.

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    Might as well take the 23andme for $99, then upload the raw datato Family Finder for $89: you'll get more matches that way, plus a second analysis of your ancestry.
     

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    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
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    I1-M253 Ireland
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    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
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    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    on a similar note, looking for some info/advice....


    I have a few questions as its been a long time since I paid attention to what 23&me exactly did for you, and I think others here are much more up to date

    1-I got the original V1 chip test when they first dropped the price to the amazing 500+ bucks...I am confirmed L513 via FTDNA and H1* by 23&me...and my main interest is terminal SNPs for both Y and MTdna, I dont care all that much about autosomal
    ...so what if any practicle benifit would I get from getting this 99 $ test done, I gather its on the V3 chip and has some SNP's that the first version did not...I have zero interest in the medical nonsense and wouldnt pay a penny for it

    2-I have a buddy that is just getting into DNA testing, he is interested in both the short term geniological and long term ancestoral aspects...he just got a 67 STR marker test-dont remember what he was predicted as, but he is one of the Irish/scottish maybe plantation mob...maybe a hot spot in the Orkneys, which was news to him...what could I tell him about what he would get with this 99$ test that would be useful/good sales manship?

    thanks for any advice..

    Mike
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    Take AJL's advice -- $99 23andme and $89 upgrade to FF. That's less than just a FF account!!

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    Mike:

    The 23andme V3 chip isn't so great for the Y, IIRC, though probbaly better for R1b1a2 than most other haplos. If you've already done Family Finder and an earlier version of 23andme then the upgrade is pretty much only for the medical side although it might add a little more definition to the boundaries of your Relative Finder matches, maybe help to weed out a couple of false positives. If you haven't done FF and your DNA is not already biobanked with 23, I'd just do FF directly because shipping to Canada is about $60 for 23andme, versus whatever it costs for you to send a US small packet, maybe $5, for Family Finder.

    For your buddy, again the Y side might not be too great at 23 but the autosomal would be the selling point, especially if he can pony up the $89 to transfer his 23 kit to Family Finder. The 23andme transfer won't affect his Y at all. The new Genographic is probably the thing for the Y if he hasn't done a deep clade, but that seems a little steep at $200 and I can't speak to how well that will be integrated into the haplotree at FTDNA because it hasn't been done yet.
     

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    Thx
    AJL, very helpful!

    Mike
    Furthest Y line=Patrick Whealen 1816-1874, b.Tipperary Co. Ire. d. Kincardine Ont.

    Y-DNA-RL21-L513-Z23516-BY11142('lost Irish 'C' boys?')

    FTDNA=P312+ P25+ M343+ M269+ M207+ M173+ L513+ U198- U152- U106- SRY2627- P66- P107- M73- M65- M37- M222- M18- M160- M153- M126- L705- L577- L193- L159.2- L1333-
    Big-Y=Z23516+
    23&me=L21+
    E.A.= S21-, S26-, S28-, S29-, S68-
    Geno 2 (N.G.P.) H1bd+

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    My pleasure!
     

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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