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    RISE554 and N-Y6503

    Igmayka, Davidski posted today results of his K-12 run with several RISE samples.

    I am particularly interested in RISE554 because Genetiker has claimed that RISE554 is N-Y6503 as Hungarian IR1, i.e. predecessor clade of N-P189.2, which is unrelated to all other N branches in the world. When I compare RISE554 with the most Siberian of Karasuk and the most Karitiana of Okunevo, the results are the following:
    Afontova Gora RISE554: Nganasan 58%, Naxi 0%, European HG 6%, Afanasievo 17%, Atayal 0%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 8%, 12% Karitiana
    Karasuk RISE497: Nganasan 56%, Naxi 19%, European HG 0%, Afanasievo 11%, Atayal 0%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 7%, 7% Karitiana
    Okunevo RISE515: Nganasan 27%, Naxi 0%, European HG 16%, Afanasievo 30%, Atayal 5%, Pulliyar 0%, Chukchi 4%, 18% Karitiana

    So, RISE 554 lacks all southern elements but is even 20% American. RISE497 has a clear northern HAN admixture. Okunevo has a strange 5% Atayal.

    I have been wondering where IR1 came from and now we have another N-Y6503 which looks like having come from Volga Ural area through Siberian taiga. If the earliest N branch comes from the area which has always been considered the most plausible homeland of Uralic languages, it looks like all other N lines may have their origin there as well. I am really waiting for ancient yDNA analyses from Volga. What do you think?
    Last edited by Kristiina; 08-31-2015 at 06:06 PM.

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    Thank you David! I tried to find Eurogenes results for IR1 but did not succeed. Here are Genetiker's globe 13 results for IR1
    • 38.81% North_European
    • 22.25% Mediterranean
    • 20.09% West_Asian
    • 5.28% Southwest_Asian
    • 5.06% Siberian
    • 2.38% Amerindian
    • 2.00% Arctic
    • 1.78% South_Asian
    • 1.55% West_African
    • 0.61% East_Asian
    • 0.17% Australasian
    • 0.00% East_African
    • 0.00% Palaeo_African

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristiina View Post
    Thank you David! I tried to find Eurogenes results for IR1 but did not succeed. Here are Genetiker's globe 13 results for IR1
    • 38.81% North_European
    • 22.25% Mediterranean
    • 20.09% West_Asian
    • 5.28% Southwest_Asian
    • 5.06% Siberian
    • 2.38% Amerindian
    • 2.00% Arctic
    • 1.78% South_Asian
    • 1.55% West_African
    • 0.61% East_Asian
    • 0.17% Australasian
    • 0.00% East_African
    • 0.00% Palaeo_African
    Here are the IR1‘s Eurogenes results.

    K13

    North_Atlantic 38.53%
    Baltic 27.25%
    West_Med 11.36%
    West_Asian 19.69%
    East_Med 0.61%
    Red_Sea 0.87%
    South_Asian -
    East_Asian -
    Siberian 0.80%
    Amerindian 0.87%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -



    K15

    North_Sea 23.35%
    Atlantic 23.43%
    Baltic 11.45%
    Eastern_Euro 19.13%
    West_Med 6.33%
    West_Asian 15.81%
    East_Med -
    Red_Sea -
    South_Asian -
    Southeast_Asian -
    Siberian 0.15%
    Amerindian 0.32%
    Oceanian -
    Northeast_African -
    Sub-Saharan -

    K36


    Amerindian -
    Arabian -
    Armenian 3.54%
    Basque 1.24%
    Central_African -
    Central_Euro -
    East_African -
    East_Asian -
    East_Balkan 3.34%
    East_Central_Asian -
    East_Central_Euro 8.69%
    East_Med -
    Eastern_Euro 11.03%
    Fennoscandian 4.83%
    French 11.55%
    Iberian 0.44%
    Indo-Chinese -
    Italian 6.98%
    Malayan -
    Near_Eastern -
    North_African -
    North_Atlantic 14.39%
    North_Caucasian 14.01%
    North_Sea 18.27%
    Northeast_African -
    Oceanian -
    Omotic -
    Pygmy -
    Siberian -
    South_Asian -
    South_Central_Asian -
    South_Chinese -
    Volga-Ural -
    West_African -
    West_Caucasian -
    West_Med 1.70%

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