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Thread: New: South Indian Karnataka Result (23andme)

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    Hmm. Wouldn't be amusing if they haven't updated it. It's almost 2 years now.

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    Interesting Y dna.
    Btw there is no 40% ASI/60% ANI , the SI component is not ASI.

    Rajib posted this a few weeks back.
    http://www.unz.com/gnxp/tamil-brahmi...en-and-native/

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    Welcome! =) My father's family is from Mangalore and mother's from Palakkad, Kerala and Nagapattinam/Tanjore districts in Tamil Nadu. Here are my Gedrosia K11, Eurogenes ANE K7, and Gedmatch Harappa results for comparison:

    Gedrosia K11
    Population
    WHG 6.44%
    S_Indian 50.89%
    Gedrosian 24.60%
    SW_Asian -
    Siberian 1.20%
    EEF 2.51%
    E_Asian 0.11%
    Caucasus 5.50%
    Kalash 5.21%
    Indo_Chinese 2.11%
    SE_Asian 1.43%

    ANE K7
    Population
    ANE 29.22%
    ASE 19.96%
    WHG-UHG 2.23%
    East_Eurasian 5.27%
    West_African 1.54%
    East_African 2.77%
    ENF 39.01%

    Harappa
    Population
    S-Indian 44.82%
    Baloch 35.81%
    Caucasian 7.40%
    NE-Euro 8.11%
    SE-Asian 0.96%
    Siberian 0.83%
    NE-Asian 0.26%
    Papuan 0.05%
    American 0.24%
    Beringian -
    Mediterranean 1.20%
    SW-Asian -
    San 0.33%
    E-African -
    Pygmy -
    W-African -

    Single Population Sharing:

    # Population (source) Distance
    1 karnataka-brahmin (harappa) 3.39
    2 up-kshatriya (metspalu) 3.42
    3 meghawal (reich) 3.66
    4 maharashtrian (harappa) 3.67
    5 bihari-muslim (harappa) 3.8
    6 vaish (reich) 4.03
    7 gujarati-b (hapmap) 4.26
    8 brahmin-tamil-nadu (metspalu) 4.39
    9 gujarati (harappa) 4.57
    10 tn-brahmin (xing) 4.7

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    Varun,

    Thanks for replying!

    Very curious. What sect does your father belong to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    Varun,

    Thanks for replying!

    Very curious. What sect does your father belong to?
    That is a good question =). To be honest, I'm not completely sure myself, but family lore/ genetic relative matches seems to suggest GSB (Gowd Saraswat) in addition to various Smartha sects. Genetic relatives on that side seem to span the coast from Udupi to Mangalore. Our surname is Rao, and father's place name is given as 'Idya'. (Idya refers to a former fishing village that merged with Surathkal and later Mangalore.) Ajji's family is from Vittal (Bantwal Taluk), which is closer to the mountains.

    Edit: My paternal relatives all speak Kannada.

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    That's probably one of the Shivalli / Kota (possibly Havyaka also) types. Would you mind PMing me your Gedmatch kit #? Will be quite interesting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    It appears like H2* is pretty rare. Apart from being reclassified under H (formerly F3), whatever literature I could find (WikiPedia & some blogs) points to some distribution in Western Europe, South Iran, Armenia and South India. Any info / pointers / insights welcome.
    Where was the case in S Iran observed? Was it in a project or study? I would like to compare the haplotype, if available, to an Assyrian H2 from NW Iran.

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    @Humanist: I'm not sure. I followed the Wikipedia sources from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplog...p_H2_.28P96.29 and ended up somewhere.

    As pointed out in this thread, it appears that 23andme is still classifying H-APT as H2 as opposed to F3-P96.

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    Quote Originally Posted by [email protected] View Post
    @rozenfield: Thanks, definitely interesting.

    Also, related (with further speculation on H2): http://dispatchesfromturtleisland.bl...na-doesnt.html
    You don't need to wonder about your H2 much, I think you need to test further to see what kind of a H you actually are, as there is no shortage of H among Brahmins especially the H1a. My understanding is that Indo-Aryans were strictly R1a1a, no other Y haplogroups qualifies for that, while the H1a is Indian Tribals' haplogroup.

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