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    23&Me Vs. DNA.LAND

    Okay, I Tested with 23&Me back in 2013. My GEDmatch Results affirm what 23&Me has to say for me, but I recently did the DNA LAND Transfer, and had a question. I'm half Italian, and on 23&Me this side is coming out at 23.3% Italian, with the bulk of the rest as Broadly Southern European, and a bit of Broadly European. On DNA LAND I get a large Southern European Score, but alongside a 12%+ Levantine/Ashkenazi one. I don't understand this, as there is no signal of Ashkenazi/Levantine Admixture on 23&Me or on GEDmatch, and I do not have any DNA Matches who are Jewish or in the Near or Middle East. Is it possible that this score is due to the Neolithic or maybe to the similar DNA between Italians and the Ashkenazi (as it is inferred that a large percent of Ashkenazi DNA comes from Roman Era Italic Converts), or perhaps a mix of the two?
    Paternal Haplogroup: I2a1c (Ancestor: Albert I Lee (Family surname was "Brooks" prior to the British-Boer War II) / Born: 1900-Middlesbrough Yorkshire, England)

    Maternal Haplogroup: J2a1 (Ancestor: Maria B. Cavallini / Born: 1893-Livorno, Tuscany, Italy)

    Places Of Ancestry: Yorkshire, England/ Durham, England/ Lancashire, England/ Abruzzo, Italy/ Campania, Italy/ Tuscany, Italy

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    For south Asians and South Central Asians I found DNA.Land much much better than 23&me. The added central asian category did a really good job at separating west asian ancestry in South Asians. On 23&me all I got was 95-96% SA and 2% Euro, which well doesnt explain much.

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    23andme's Ancestry Composition tool is utterly useless for South Asians. I agree that dna.land is better.

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    I think some South Europeans get Ashkenazi/Levantine becauase of their high ENF.

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    I got almost 49% AJ/Levantine in DNA.Land, in MyOrigin I'have not J Diaspora and in in Gedmatch I have very few Jewish matches also if many oracles often list some Jewish population.
    DNA.Land with AJ/Levantine points out to ancestral levantine in the east mediterranean, in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bored View Post
    I think some South Europeans get Ashkenazi/Levantine becauase of their high ENF.
    I've already read something like that somewhere, perhaps on the facebook page of DNALand.
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    How about an admix test where Ashkenazis got Southern European instead of other way around? I think some figures in the industry have open political agendas and accuracy is a casualty.
    Given these agendas publicly stated do people think these scores are an accident?


    http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2015/0...jewish-people/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dnoone View Post
    How about an admix test where Ashkenazis got Southern European instead of other way around? I think some figures in the industry have open political agendas and accuracy is a casualty.
    Given these agendas publicly stated do people think these scores are an accident?


    http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2015/0...jewish-people/
    Where in that article do you see an "openly stated public agenda?" Sorry, but you're sounding kind of paranoid here.
     

    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    Would happily reply if free speech were guaranteed. Otherwise will keep my thoughts to myself.

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    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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