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    What am I?

    Hello.
    I am new to this website, as well as DNA/Genealogy stuff. Me and my brother have been researching our family background for 3 years now. We've found a lot of information using AncestryDNA, ftDNA, GEDMatch, and 23andMe. We have all the information, but we don't know how to make sense of it.
    Here's what I know (paper trail)
    Mother: Mostly English, Dutch, and German
    Father: He's adopted so we don't know anything about him but we guess he's Irish.
    My mom has brown hair, brown eyes, and unusually dark skin (she grew up in SoCal, but still it's very peculiar to me why she's so dark). My dad has black hair and green eyes, and very fair skinned. I have brown hair, brown eyes, and I am fair-skinned.
    Mothers family has been here since the early 1700's coming from England and Holland. My dad, I don't know. My haplogroups are in my profile.
    Thank you!
    My EU-k15
     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Atlantic 51.61
    2 Baltic 20.38
    3 West_Med 14.26
    4 West_Asian 5.67
    5 South_Asian 2.07
    6 Amerindian 1.78
    7 Red_Sea 1.74
    8 East_Med 1.25


    Finished reading population data. 204 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southwest_English @ 3.484504
    2 West_Scottish @ 4.343005
    3 Irish @ 4.555445
    4 Orcadian @ 5.187143
    5 Southeast_English @ 5.654191
    6 North_Dutch @ 7.580357
    7 Danish @ 8.154659
    8 Norwegian @ 9.648436
    9 South_Dutch @ 9.855775
    10 North_German @ 9.951562
    11 West_German @ 11.638169
    12 Swedish @ 12.477930
    13 French @ 14.307564
    14 Austrian @ 18.813000
    15 North_Swedish @ 19.284529
    16 East_German @ 19.338736
    17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 21.413143
    18 Southwest_French @ 21.886179
    19 Spanish_Cantabria @ 22.420538
    20 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 22.484859

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +50% Southwest_English @ 3.484504


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Southwest_English +25% Southwest_English +25% West_Scottish @ 3.366259


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.366259
    2 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.373102
    3 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.484504
    4 Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.493480
    5 Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.496640
    6 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.543041
    7 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.619924
    8 French + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.675622
    9 Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.710016
    10 Irish + Orcadian + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.736805
    11 French + Irish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.740599
    12 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.767523
    13 Irish + Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.784273
    14 French + Irish + Irish + West_Scottish @ 3.837121
    15 Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.842416
    16 Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.846511
    17 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English + Southwest_English @ 3.853132
    18 Irish + Irish + Southwest_English + West_Scottish @ 3.886000
    19 Southeast_English + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.894381
    20 South_Dutch + Southwest_English + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 3.894974

    EU-v2k15
     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 North_Sea 34.12
    2 Atlantic 31.61
    3 West_Med 9.44
    4 Eastern_Euro 7.77
    5 Baltic 7.44
    6 West_Asian 4.39
    7 South_Asian 1.76
    8 Amerindian 1.55
    9 Red_Sea 1.26


    Finished reading population data. 207 populations found.
    15 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Southeast_English @ 4.831762
    2 Southwest_English @ 4.994961
    3 Irish @ 5.626585
    4 West_Scottish @ 5.954813
    5 Orcadian @ 6.922836
    6 Danish @ 8.217308
    7 North_Dutch @ 8.523889
    8 South_Dutch @ 8.850234
    9 North_German @ 8.951732
    10 West_German @ 12.296137
    11 French @ 12.496651
    12 Norwegian @ 12.796795
    13 West_Norwegian @ 13.289691
    14 Swedish @ 14.523418
    15 North_Swedish @ 17.133303
    16 East_German @ 17.618006
    17 Spanish_Cataluna @ 19.991339
    18 Spanish_Galicia @ 20.794415
    19 Spanish_Castilla_Y_Leon @ 21.244934
    20 Southwest_Finnish @ 21.476925

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Irish +50% Southwest_English @ 4.706878


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Orcadian +25% Orcadian +25% Southwest_French @ 4.060028


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 3.836929
    2 French_Basque + Norwegian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 3.866039
    3 French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Norwegian + West_Scottish @ 3.998014
    4 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Swedish @ 4.002878
    5 Danish + French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.005295
    6 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.047434
    7 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.051316
    8 Danish + French_Basque + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.052565
    9 Orcadian + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_French @ 4.060028
    10 French_Basque + Irish + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.097558
    11 Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_French + West_Scottish @ 4.111049
    12 French_Basque + Norwegian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.131402
    13 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Scottish @ 4.141225
    14 French_Basque + North_Dutch + Orcadian + West_Norwegian @ 4.147648
    15 Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria + West_Scottish + West_Scottish @ 4.187231
    16 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Cantabria @ 4.203083
    17 Irish + Orcadian + Orcadian + Southwest_French @ 4.229585
    18 French_Basque + North_Swedish + Orcadian + Orcadian @ 4.242866
    19 Orcadian + Orcadian + Spanish_Castilla_La_Mancha + West_Scottish @ 4.244821
    20 French_Basque + Orcadian + Orcadian + West_Scottish @ 4.252669

    Dodecad v3
     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 West_European 54.13
    2 Mediterranean 26.43
    3 East_European 9.27
    4 West_Asian 6.84
    5 Northeast_Asian 1.08
    6 South_Asian 1.02


    Finished reading population data. 227 populations found.
    12 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 CEU @ 2.391937
    2 Orcadian @ 3.386884
    3 Orkney @ 3.679406
    4 Argyll @ 4.253080
    5 N._European @ 4.432551
    6 Mixed_Germanic @ 8.884888
    7 German @ 9.045950
    8 Dutch @ 9.358310
    9 French @ 9.565433
    10 French @ 9.942646
    11 Kent @ 11.636999
    12 British_Isles @ 13.615162
    13 British @ 13.712559
    14 Cornwall @ 14.385739
    15 Irish @ 16.974739
    16 Swedish @ 18.179436
    17 Norwegian @ 18.618404
    18 Slovenian @ 19.862471
    19 French_Basque @ 21.927546
    20 Hungarians @ 24.314747

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU +50% CEU @ 2.391937


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% CEU +25% French +25% Argyll @ 1.449522


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 French + Orcadian + Argyll + N._European @ 1.166938
    2 French + Orkney + Argyll + N._European @ 1.202658
    3 CEU + French + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.206780
    4 CEU + French + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.209402
    5 CEU + French + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.212724
    6 French + Orcadian + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.238408
    7 French + Orkney + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.249743
    8 French + Argyll + Argyll + N._European @ 1.258593
    9 French + Orcadian + Orkney + N._European @ 1.266908
    10 French + Orkney + Orkney + N._European @ 1.268253
    11 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + N._European @ 1.269926
    12 French + Orcadian + Argyll + N._European @ 1.272095
    13 CEU + French + Orcadian + Argyll @ 1.272771
    14 French + Argyll + Argyll + Argyll @ 1.281265
    15 Cornwall + FIN + Kent + North_Italian @ 1.283700
    16 CEU + French + Orkney + Argyll @ 1.290853
    17 French + Orcadian + Orcadian + N._European @ 1.297756
    18 CEU + French + Argyll + N._European @ 1.299295
    19 French + Orcadian + Orkney + N._European @ 1.307234
    20 French + Orkney + Orkney + N._European @ 1.325178

    Done.

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    MDLP Ultimate
     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ENF 42.97
    2 WHG-UHG 27.31
    3 ANE 21.89
    4 Caucas-Gedrosia 6.21


    Finished reading population data. 662 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 North_European @ 2.165318
    2 English_GBR @ 2.376965
    3 North_German @ 2.912812
    4 Welsh @ 2.980770
    5 Germany_North @ 3.225616
    6 English_Cornwall_GBR @ 4.105818
    7 Belgian @ 4.303271
    8 Slovenian2 @ 4.436989
    9 Sweden @ 4.462635
    10 Swede @ 4.464717
    11 European_Utah @ 4.964291
    12 German @ 5.043330
    13 Scottish_Argyll_Bute_GBR @ 5.302493
    14 English_Kent_GBR @ 5.465179
    15 Slovak @ 5.531975
    16 Czech2 @ 5.827585
    17 Germany_South @ 6.555719
    18 Czech @ 6.584372
    19 Sorbs @ 6.696520
    20 South-German @ 6.786102

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% North_European +50% North_German @ 1.804375


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% English_Cornwall_GBR +25% Inkeri +25% Welsh @ 1.597969


    EUTest
     
    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 ATLANTIC 30.26
    2 NORTH-CENTRAL_EURO 26.76
    3 EAST_EURO 12.63
    4 WEST_MED 11.64
    5 SOUTH_BALTIC 9.68
    6 WEST_ASIAN 3.92
    7 EAST_MED 2.49
    8 SOUTH_ASIAN 1.56


    Finished reading population data. 78 populations found.
    13 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 IE @ 3.755722
    2 Cornish @ 3.782969
    3 Orcadian @ 4.380914
    4 Scottish @ 5.102349
    5 English @ 6.014668
    6 NL @ 6.964439
    7 DK @ 7.720349
    8 West_&_Central_German @ 8.403781
    9 NO @ 10.179091
    10 South_&_Central_Swedish @ 11.577939
    11 FR @ 12.698201
    12 North_Swedish @ 14.830949
    13 AT @ 16.097277
    14 ES @ 20.425724
    15 PT @ 20.709316
    16 HU @ 22.127533
    17 French_Basque @ 24.046312
    18 South_Finnish @ 24.320585
    19 Serbian @ 24.542767
    20 North_Italian @ 25.893164

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornish +50% IE @ 3.139678


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Cornish +25% IE +25% IE @ 3.139678


    Using 4 populations approximation:
    1 Cornish + Cornish + IE + IE @ 3.139678
    2 Cornish + IE + IE + IE @ 3.309065
    3 Cornish + Cornish + Cornish + IE @ 3.324811
    4 Cornish + Cornish + IE + Scottish @ 3.340489
    5 Cornish + Cornish + IE + Orcadian @ 3.378215
    6 DK + French_Basque + IE + NO @ 3.438701
    7 DK + French_Basque + IE + North_Swedish @ 3.441688
    8 Cornish + IE + IE + Orcadian @ 3.468936
    9 Cornish + Cornish + Cornish + Scottish @ 3.477782
    10 FR + IE + IE + IE @ 3.479426
    11 DK + DK + French_Basque + IE @ 3.483925
    12 Cornish + English + IE + IE @ 3.489024
    13 FR + IE + IE + Scottish @ 3.490188
    14 Cornish + IE + IE + Scottish @ 3.532768
    15 DK + French_Basque + North_Swedish + Scottish @ 3.547231
    16 Cornish + Cornish + Orcadian + Scottish @ 3.560595
    17 DK + French_Basque + NO + Orcadian @ 3.571144
    18 DK + French_Basque + NO + Scottish @ 3.572392
    19 DK + DK + DK + French_Basque @ 3.584117
    20 DK + French_Basque + IE + South_&_Central_Swedish @ 3.587481

    Done.

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    Britsh Isles 50-60%
    Scandinavia 10-20%
    Central Europe 5-10%
    Eastern Europe 0-5%
    Native American 0-2%
    (i don't have the exact numbers, sorry)

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    Mostly NW european descent and Atlantid sub racial types.
    Last edited by I1-Z63; 11-02-2015 at 06:50 AM.

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    50% English_Cornwall_GBR +25% Inkeri +25% Welsh @ 1.597969
    Hi, Inkeri-brother! With Ultimate K13 I am myself: English_Cornwall_GBR+English_Kent_GBR+Germany_Nort h+Inkeri @ 1.2389. I presume that you have, like me, "ggogle-ized" the word "Inkeri"....
    En North alom, de North venom
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    Hi, anglesqueville! I did Google it as a matter of fact, lol. Thank you i1z63, I knew most of me comes from NW Europe, didnt know about the Atlantid part. I do look very southern European to everyone. People mostly classify me as Atlanto-Med based on my appearance, but it seems my genetics tell a different story, lol!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruder View Post
    Hi, anglesqueville! I did Google it as a matter of fact, lol. Thank you i1z63, I knew most of me comes from NW Europe, didnt know about the Atlantid part. I do look very southern European to everyone. People mostly classify me as Atlanto-Med based on my appearance, but it seems my genetics tell a different story, lol!
    Welcome to Anthrogenica! If I may ask, what do your MDLP K23b calculator results look like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gruder View Post
    Hi, anglesqueville! I did Google it as a matter of fact, lol. Thank you i1z63, I knew most of me comes from NW Europe, didnt know about the Atlantid part. I do look very southern European to everyone. People mostly classify me as Atlanto-Med based on my appearance, but it seems my genetics tell a different story, lol!
    I wouldn't worry very much about it. Just roll the dice of life. You look very north-west european autosomally.
    Last edited by Arbogan; 11-02-2015 at 03:40 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbogan View Post
    I wouldn't worry very much about it. Just roll the dice of life. You look very north-west european autosomally.
    100% agree. The old pseudo-scientific phenotypical genetics is dead, or nearly. One of the reasons why I like anthrogenica is that on here there is no sub-forum of the kind of " What alpinoids/nordics/mediterraneans/annunakis look like? Post photos".
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    MDLP K23B Results
    # Population Percent
    1 European_Hunters_Gatherers 35.34
    2 European_Early_Farmers 27.14
    3 Caucasian 21.18
    4 South_Central_Asian 7.92
    5 Ancestral_Altaic 6.12

    Thanks all!

    EDIT: Should the Amerindian be paid attention to? I know it's minimal but it shows up on numerous tests. Also, when I do a test on gee match (I believe it's the Hunter Gatherer Test vs Farmer test), it shows South American Hunter Gatherer at roughly 2%. This doesn't have anything to do with my DNA but my closest match on 23andMe is a half European half Amerindian man with the haplogroup q13a3, a haplogroup concentrated in the Americas. It could be just noise, but then again, I don't know much about DNA/Gentetics. Bear with me here
    Last edited by gruder; 11-02-2015 at 04:25 PM.

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    I've always suspected that 23andme might underestimate Amerindian admixture in people with North American Amerindian admixture. The reason being that they lack samples from any of the North American indigenous people. It seems there is a discrepancy between what 23andme gives you(0.7%) and what the other calculators give you 1.5-2.0%. I'm sharing with someone who comes out 99.9% European and no amerindian, yet per the third party calculators he clearly shows signals of Amerindian admixture in several chromosomes, though they are small the biggest one being ~13% of his chromosome 12 or 13, so it could be noise, but the fact that it consistently comes out in several calculators makes me think that perhaps 23andme algorithm isn't that good at catching Northern Amerindian admixture.

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