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    Unusual Q in Poland

    A member of my project recently received his Y-DNA37 results:
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    434198		Poland	Q-M242	13	24	13	10	14	18	12	12	12	13	14	30	16	9	9	11	11	26	14	19	30	14	15	16	16	10	10	19	22	16	14	18	17	34	36	12	11
    His Y-DNA Matches page shows no matches at all at 37 or 25 markers. At 12 markers, he has:
    - One exact match, confirmed Q-M3
    - One GD-1 near-match, confirmed Q-L53, whose name looks Hispanic Mayan (judging from a Google search).

    Here is his Ysearch entry. At 37 markers, his nearest neighbors are at GDs 11 and 12, and all appear to have (Native) American patrilineage.

    The Y-DNA Q Project originally placed him in a category labeled as Z780, but Q-Z780 is considered exclusively Native American. That project has moved him to a category labeled L940 (which is my best guess also).

    Since he lives in Poland, he is much less likely to be able to afford a Big Y, even with some contribution from me. FTDNA does not offer a Q SNP Pack, and I don't know whether they ever will. Yseq has a SNP panel for Q-L275 but none for the rest of Q.
    Last edited by lgmayka; 11-04-2015 at 04:50 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    A member of my project recently received his Y-DNA37 results:
    Code:
    434198		Poland	Q-M242	13	24	13	10	14	18	12	12	12	13	14	30	16	9	9	11	11	26	14	19	30	14	15	16	16	10	10	19	22	16	14	18	17	34	36	12	11
    His Y-DNA Matches page shows no matches at all at 37 or 25 markers. At 12 markers, he has:
    - One exact match, confirmed Q-M3
    - One GD-1 near-match, confirmed Q-L53, whose name looks Hispanic Mayan (judging from a Google search).

    Here is his Ysearch entry. At 37 markers, his nearest neighbors are at GDs 11 and 12, and all appear to have (Native) American patrilineage.

    The Y-DNA Q Project originally placed him in a category labeled as Z780, but Q-Z780 is considered exclusively Native American. That project has moved him to a category labeled L940 (which is my best guess also).

    Since he lives in Poland, he is much less likely to be able to afford a Big Y, even with some contribution from me. FTDNA does not offer a Q SNP Pack, and I don't know whether they ever will. Yseq has a SNP panel for Q-L275 but none for the rest of Q.
    Very interesting! It was announced in the Haplogroup Q activity feed a few months ago that they are supposed to be coming out with SNP packs for Q. I know one was going to be specific for Q-L245. I'll have to go back and read it to see if it was for all Q. They are definitely taking forever on it. Maybe crowdfunding Big Y for him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tįltos View Post
    Maybe crowdfunding Big Y for him?
    That would be perfect if successful (i.e., if we could raise enough money). I myself would be willing to contribute $100.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    That would be perfect if successful (i.e., if we could raise enough money). I myself would be willing to contribute $100.
    That's great! I would make a contribution, hopefully others will too. Would this go through your project or the Haplogroup Q one? Poland is a very interesting place for haplogroups- both Y and mtDNA.

    I just checked the activity feed for Haplogroup Q. First mention of an SNP pack was from June, and only about Q1b. Second comment was in September. Again only mentioned for Q1b. I just asked them if they are doing the packs for Q1a as well, and when they would be available. Maybe Шад can comment here for us about this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tįltos View Post
    Maybe crowdfunding Big Y for him?
    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    That would be perfect if successful (i.e., if we could raise enough money).
    Ahem...

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    Quote Originally Posted by DMXX View Post
    And YES! Of course here at Anthrogenica!
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    Indian Q is not so surprisingly, as it seems to be.
    In Poland we have some local Indians...

    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-Okh
    2. http://www.krakowpost.com/7294/2013/...orsztyn-castle
    3. http://braulio-mamani.com/en/el-sikuri-group/

    Otherwise, this haplotype could bring to Poland Spaniards who come to Poland from XVI century until this day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rethel View Post
    Indian Q is not so surprisingly, as it seems to be.
    In Poland we have some local Indians...

    1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sat-Okh
    2. http://www.krakowpost.com/7294/2013/...orsztyn-castle
    3. http://braulio-mamani.com/en/el-sikuri-group/

    Otherwise, this haplotype could bring to Poland Spaniards who come to Poland from XVI century until this day.
    Thank you for the interesting links. I have a request though. When referring to Indian Q, can you please call it Native American Q. I also grew up calling Native Americans "Indians". It's just how it was back then, today I would say Native American instead. There are several men from India that are also Q1a and Q1b. So terminology can get too confusing. Thanks. https://www.familytreedna.com/public...frame=yresults
    Last edited by Tįltos; 11-04-2015 at 07:43 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    What is the family history?
    All I see is the ancestral location, Nieżywięć near Chojnice.

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