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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    What is the family history?
    He wanted to share this further detail. (I have corrected some spelling mistakes. English is not his first language.)
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    On Anthrogenica forum user Afshar asked about my family history.
    My known paternal line comes from north Poland, Nieżywięć near city Chojnice (Konitz).
    The oldest paternal ancestor (proven by documents) is Michael Foede (Fedde) born about 1770.
    I have some reason to suppose that:
    1) Michael's father probably was Mathia Wede (Wedou) born 1718
    2) Mathia's father probably was Jacob Veda born probably between 1670 -1700
    All come from Nieżywięć near Chojnice.

    Our appearance (face, skin etc) is typical of other Polish inhabitants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    He wanted to share this further detail. (I have corrected some spelling mistakes. English is not his first language.)
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    On Anthrogenica forum user Afshar asked about my family history.
    My known paternal line comes from north Poland, Nieżywięć near city Chojnice (Konitz).
    The oldest paternal ancestor (proven by documents) is Michael Foede (Fedde) born about 1770.
    I have some reason to suppose that:
    1) Michael's father probably was Mathia Wede (Wedou) born 1718
    2) Mathia's father probably was Jacob Veda born probably between 1670 -1700
    All come from Nieżywięć near Chojnice.

    Our appearance (face, skin etc) is typical of other Polish inhabitants.

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    Has he done an autosomal DNA test, and if so, has it been uploaded to GEDmatch? I'd like to do some comparisons, but I'd be glad to keep them private if necessary. Anything on his mtDNA haplogroup?

    Thanks,

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    Has he done an autosomal DNA test, and if so, has it been uploaded to GEDmatch? I'd like to do some comparisons, but I'd be glad to keep them private if necessary. Anything on his mtDNA haplogroup?
    He has not done any other DNA testing. Since he only has $150 to spend, and patrilineage is apparently of greatest interest to him (and certainly to those of us intrigued by his Y-DNA37 results), I don't see him ordering any other kind of test (unless someone else is willing to fund it, of course). Sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    He has not done any other DNA testing. Since he only has $150 to spend, and patrilineage is apparently of greatest interest to him (and certainly to those of us intrigued by his Y-DNA37 results), I don't see him ordering any other kind of test (unless someone else is willing to fund it, of course). Sorry.
    Appreciate the information. This is an interesting case. I wish I had extra money to contribute toward an autosomal test. Such a test would probably be able to show if there was a migration in the past few hundred years which brought the Q paternal ancestor from America.

    Jack

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    Quote Originally Posted by C J Wyatt III View Post
    Such a test would probably be able to show if there was a migration in the past few hundred years which brought the Q paternal ancestor from America.
    That is theoretically possible but highly unlikely, especially given his large Genetic Distance (GD) from anyone else. But even in that case, his story would be so utterly rare as to add value to his Big Y. (Poland never had overseas colonies except for a very brief arm's-length relationship with Tobago.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by lgmayka View Post
    That is theoretically possible but highly unlikely, especially given his large Genetic Distance (GD) from anyone else. But even in that case, his story would be so utterly rare as to add value to his Big Y. (Poland never had overseas colonies except for a very brief arm's-length relationship with Tobago.)
    I understand your interest in Big Y, but what I said is not impacted by Poland's lack of colonies. My research is finding all kinds of movements around the world in the 18th Century that most people normally don't think about. Sometimes I think genealogists reach deep when the answer is up close.

    Jack

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    My conclusion - Q-L569
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    Quote Originally Posted by Шад View Post
    My conclusion - Q-L569
    But L569 is a subclade of Z781, which is a subclade of Z780. Anzick1 is Q-Z780* . Isn't Q-Z780 believed to be exclusively Native American? Or have you already found examples of Q-Z780 in Eurasia?

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    Perhaps it homoplasy. Then we are both wrong in the prediction.
    Of course, the most logical is that it belongs to any rare Q1a Eurasian subclades.
    Please join him to the Q yDNA project.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/y-dna-q/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Шад View Post
    Please join him to the Q yDNA project.
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/y-dna-q/
    He is kit 434198 in that project.

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