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    R1b of European-Americans

    I wonder which R1b is more common among European-Americans, P312 or U106 ???

    Do we have any clues concerning this? And what about European-Canadians ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomenable View Post
    I wonder which R1b is more common among European-Americans, P312 or U106 ???

    Do we have any clues concerning this? And what about European-Canadians ???
    P312 by far.

    In the American Centric FTDNA R1b project there are:

    -U106: 897 confirmed SNPs
    P312: 266
    P312>DF27: 427
    P312>L21: 1290
    p312>U152: 369

    72% P312
    28% U106
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    P312 by far.

    In the American Centric R1b project there are:

    -U106: 897 confirmed SNPs
    P312: 266
    P312>DF27: 427
    P312>L21: 1290
    p312>U152: 369

    72% P312
    28% U106
    British/Irish is biggest ethnic contributor in America. That's why there's more L21 than U106.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    British/Irish is biggest ethnic contributor in America. That's why there's more L21 than U106.
    Also the Italian U152 and Spanish DF27 immigrants contribute the P312 advantage over U106.
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    I would agree with those percentages,

    I'm a somewhat typical U.S.-Canadian (thus West European) "mutt" with many early colonial lines. So far I know that 15 of my lines are P312 and 5 lines are U106 (75% vs. 25%). Of the P312, I have six U152, five L21, two DF27, and two uncertain. However, of the six U152, three (50%) are French Canadian, so my Quebec ancestry pushed my U152 a bit past my L21.
    Compared to my R1b ancestors, my Haplogroup I ancestors take second place ( mostly I-M253 / DF29 ). R1a is in third place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    P312 by far.

    In the American Centric R1b project there are:

    -U106: 897 confirmed SNPs
    P312: 266
    P312>DF27: 427
    P312>L21: 1290
    p312>U152: 369

    72% P312
    28% U106

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    Quote Originally Posted by Krefter View Post
    British/Irish is biggest ethnic contributor in America. That's why there's more L21 than U106.
    2 of the 3 biggest contubitors, the third is german. If I recall census data German-American as an identifier is larger than both British/English-American and Irish-American.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MitchellSince1893 View Post
    Also the Italian U152 and Spanish DF27 immigrants contribute the P312 advantage over U106.
    We even have Hispanic L21 contributing, in the DF41 project we have members from Puerto Rico and others who are Mexican-American who have ancestry back to Northern Spain
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubhthach View Post
    2 of the 3 biggest contubitors, the third is german. If I recall census data German-American as an identifier is larger than both British/English-American and Irish-American.
    Only because the British population is so much older that subsequent generations have lost touch with their ancestral lands and refer to themselves as American. American ethnicity is highly correlated with British ancestry, specifically Scots Irish, English, Welsh immigrants who settled during Colonial times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gray Fox View Post
    Only because the British population is so much older that subsequent generations have lost touch with their ancestral lands and refer to themselves as American. American ethnicity is highly correlated with British ancestry, specifically Scots Irish, English, Welsh immigrants who settled during Colonial times.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_ethnicity
    Oh sure well plain old "American" usually tops the pile at census time, but applying British to "Scots Irish" doesn't seem right in context that it's anarchonistic to Act of Union of 1801 (eg. most of heavy migration was before Ireland became part of United Kingdom in 1801)
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