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    J2 main subclades tree with time estimates

    I would like to bring this image to public discussion to include possible improvements in an update. See attached image.
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    So RISE408 Armenia, is confirmed as Z628 negative?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trojet View Post
    So RISE408 Armenia, is confirmed as Z628 negative?
    RISE408 J2b2-Z600 (xZ627)
    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...E408#post94511
    http://www.yfull.com/tree/J-Z600/
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    New Version V2
    Improvements included. Thanks for the suggestions.
    Please note: this image is not for personal lineage (clan) research. Please do not complain if you can not see your haplogroup/SNP. Times are from YFull, look there for more details: http://www.yfull.com/tree/J2/



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    Last edited by ChrisR; 11-26-2015 at 11:05 AM.
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    New Version V3
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    Please note: this image is not for personal lineage (clan) research. Please do not complain if you can not see your (terminal) haplogroup/SNP. Times and clades are selected from YFull, look there for more details: http://www.yfull.com/tree/J2/



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    Version V3.1
    some small optimization, error correction Z2444 (thanks Trojet)



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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    Version V3.1
    some small optimization, error correction Z2444 (thanks Trojet)



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    I find it interesting that you designated M92 as East Mediterranean. Among which populations is it found in high frequencies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Viktor Reznov View Post
    I find it interesting that you designated M92 as East Mediterranean. Among which populations is it found in high frequencies?
    I look at the diversity: sample origins of the early subclades under M92. Frequency is not a good origin indicator for haplogroups older then 3,000 years in the Middle East IMHO (exception: most of Caucasus).
    I see the major M92 diversity in western Fertile Crescent as well as Anatolia and Italy. Many European samples exist. Only a few from eastern Middle East / Asia. https://www.familytreedna.com/public...72?iframe=ymap
    So the hypothesis is not solid without many more Y-sequences from all of Middle East.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    Version V3.1
    some small optimization, error correction Z2444 (thanks Trojet)



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    What did you 'draw' this with ? Paint ? MS Powerpoint?

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