Page 7 of 7 FirstFirst ... 567
Results 61 to 65 of 65

Thread: Current Theories on L1335/S530 and L1065

  1. #61
    Junior Member
    Posts
    2
    Sex
    Location
    Belfast Northern Ireland
    Y-DNA (P)
    BY152990
    mtDNA (M)
    H3Y

    I would be very interested in trying to find out why there are 10 from Country Ireland on the FTDNA Block tree who are L1335+ but L1065- At the moment on Alex Williamson's YTree all the testers that are L1065- are from Wales (7 in total). If you look you can see only 3 from Wales on the FTDNA Block Tree but 10 from Ireland. Any thoughts? I tried to post the screenshots but it does not seem to allow me
    I have popped them into dropbox and tried to share the link
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zy7m7o8mp...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Top of Block tree)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/13q3xl143f...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Bottom of Block Tree marked up)

  2. The Following User Says Thank You to RWJE For This Useful Post:

     Peter MacDonald (02-08-2020)

  3. #62
    Registered Users
    Posts
    1,759
    Sex
    Location
    Dún Laoire, Bláth Cliath, Éire
    Ethnicity
    Gael
    Nationality
    Éireanach
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1b-DF41
    mtDNA (M)
    U4d3

    Ireland
    Quote Originally Posted by RWJE View Post
    I would be very interested in trying to find out why there are 10 from Country Ireland on the FTDNA Block tree who are L1335+ but L1065- At the moment on Alex Williamson's YTree all the testers that are L1065- are from Wales (7 in total). If you look you can see only 3 from Wales on the FTDNA Block Tree but 10 from Ireland. Any thoughts? I tried to post the screenshots but it does not seem to allow me
    I have popped them into dropbox and tried to share the link
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zy7m7o8mp...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Top of Block tree)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/13q3xl143f...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Bottom of Block Tree marked up)
    Without a list of surnames it's gonna be hard to theorize about this, but recall the Welsh formed such a large part of the Norman invasion of Ireland that generally people talk about the 'Cambro-Normans' (well that and major Norman barons involved often had Welsh mothers in 1169). It's quite possible that many of these 10 have surnames that in Irish context are connected to Wales. Recall after all that the third (or is fourth) most common surname in Ireland today is Walsh. Which as you guessed it denotes Welsh ancestry in a post-1169 context.
    (R1b-DF41+)
    (MtDNA: U4d3)

    How to pronounce my username (modern Irish):
    Hidden Content

  4. #63
    Junior Member
    Posts
    2
    Sex
    Location
    Belfast Northern Ireland
    Y-DNA (P)
    BY152990
    mtDNA (M)
    H3Y

    Thanks for this. The dating of the L1335 and L1065 is roughly 2000 years ago. So it would be years before the Normans. I would be very interested if there was some way we could get names for FTDNA Block Tree results similar to Alex Williamson's YTree.

  5. #64
    The "Scottish cluster" are L1335>L1065+. While the Welsh L1065- are actually from only one branch of L1335, namely Z16450. Hence we have

    L1335>L1065 from Scotland
    L1335>Z16450 from Wales

    And form the data, see no way a decision can be made as the origin of L1335. For data only presently says that: L1065 is likely form Scotland and Z16450 is likely from Wales, nothing on the origin of L1335. Am I missing something?

    The Irish YDNA would be very informative. I remember the L1065- included such Irish families as McQuillans, McCullen and McNulty, all from East Ulster?

    Looking at SNP tree at FamilyTreeDNA is see:
    L1335>L1065 69 Scotland; 17 Ireland; 12 USA; 11 England; 7 unknown
    L1335>Z16450 7 Wales; 3 USA; 2 unknown
    L1335>* 19 Scotland; 14 Ireland, 3 Wales, 3 England
    These numbers are an under count, however it is shows Z16450 is not found in Scotland and it seems L1065 is not found in Wales.
    Last edited by Muireagain; 01-15-2020 at 12:28 AM.

  6. The Following User Says Thank You to Muireagain For This Useful Post:

     Peter MacDonald (01-18-2020)

  7. #65
    Registered Users
    Posts
    84
    Sex
    Location
    Canada
    Ethnicity
    Scottish / Irish
    Nationality
    Canadian
    Y-DNA (P)
    R1b L1065/S744/S756
    mtDNA (M)
    T2b-T16362C

    Canada Scotland Ireland
    Quote Originally Posted by RWJE View Post
    I would be very interested in trying to find out why there are 10 from Country Ireland on the FTDNA Block tree who are L1335+ but L1065- At the moment on Alex Williamson's YTree all the testers that are L1065- are from Wales (7 in total). If you look you can see only 3 from Wales on the FTDNA Block Tree but 10 from Ireland. Any thoughts? I tried to post the screenshots but it does not seem to allow me
    I have popped them into dropbox and tried to share the link
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/3zy7m7o8mp...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Top of Block tree)
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/13q3xl143f...0jpeg.jpg?dl=0 (Bottom of Block Tree marked up)
    Has anyone been able to learn the surnames and/or locations of the Irish testers listed on the Block Tree who are L1335+ but L1065- ?

Page 7 of 7 FirstFirst ... 567

Similar Threads

  1. L1335 (L21>DF13>L1335) & L1065
    By Mikewww in forum L1335
    Replies: 37
    Last Post: 11-30-2016, 05:23 PM
  2. R1b-S530 in Scotland and Wales
    By J1 DYS388=13 in forum L1335
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 02-29-2016, 07:25 AM
  3. New L1335 panel
    By MacUalraig in forum L1335
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 02-04-2016, 08:55 PM
  4. R1b-L1065 SNP Pack for Scots Modal types
    By Mikewww in forum L1335
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10-09-2015, 07:39 PM
  5. L1335/L1065 Ages based on Chromo2
    By rncambron in forum L1335
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 12-03-2013, 09:13 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •