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Thread: Z2564 is flaky or recurrent, Polish DF27 guys are actually DF27>ZZ12_1**

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    Z2564 is flaky or recurrent, Polish DF27 guys are actually DF27>ZZ12_1**

    Two men in the Polish Project just received their DF27 SNP Pack results. Both have a bogus or recurrent Z2564+ , but are otherwise DF27>ZZ12_1** -- unless both FTDNA's and YFull's haplotrees are radically incorrect.

    Kit 196199
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    P297+, P310+, P311+, DF27+, L51+, P312+, L23+, L389+, Z2564+, L278+, M269+, M343+, ZZ12_1+, ZZ19_1+, ZZ12_2-, M73-, MC14-, M335-, L371-, Z2566-, Z2567-, Z2571-, Z268-, Z274-, Z29614-, Z29624-, Z29875-, Z29878-, Z29884-, Z32156-, Z32164-, Z34609-, Z37492-, L408-, L47-, L48-, L513-, L584-, L617-, L881-, M1994-, M222-, L238-, U106-, U152-, M153-, M65-, L176-, L21-, Z196-, A1773-, A2150-, A274-, A4670-, A517-, BY2823-, BY2868-, BY575-, BY653-, CTS10429-, CTS11567-, CTS11994-, CTS1751-, CTS3386-, CTS4466-, CTS4528-, CTS5330-, CTS5689-, CTS6937-, CTS7763-, DF103-, DF110-, DF17-, DF19-, DF21-, DF41-, DF49-, DF63-, DF81-, DF83-, DF88-, DF95-, DF99-, F2691-, F2863-, FGC10516-, FGC11134-, FGC13620-, FGC20761-, FGC22501-, FGC396-, FGC5301-, FGC5336-, FGC5344-, FGC5345-, FGC5351-, FGC5354-, FGC5356-, FGC5367-, FGC5373-, FGC5494-, FGC5798-, L1335-, L2-, PF3252-, PF331-, PF6610-, PF6714-, PF7562-, PF7589-, PF7600-, S1026-, S1051-, S11493-, S11601-, S12025-, S1567-, S16264-, S1688-, S18632-, S18827-, S7721-, SRY2627-, V88-, Y5058-, Z156-, Z16500-, Z17-, Z17300-, Z18-, Z1862-, Z195-, Z198-, Z209-, Z2103-, Z2109-, Z225-, Z251-, Z253-, Z2542-, Z255-, Z2573-, Z295-, Z296-, Z301-, Z302-, Z326-, Z36-, Z367-, Z381-, Z49-, Z8-, Z8052-, Z8056-, Z9-, A2145-, A2146-, A431-, A432-, A433-, A434-, A4658-, A4659-, A6456-, A6458-, A7014-, A7380-, A7385-, BY2285-, BY3232-, BY3233-, BY3235-, BY3286-, BY3287-, BY3288-, BY3289-, BY3290-, BY3291-, BY3292-, BY834-, CTS1090-, CTS416-, CTS5885-, CTS6578-, CTS7768-, CTS9952-, DF79-, DF84-, FGC11369-, FGC11414-, FGC11419-, FGC13109-, FGC13125-, FGC14113-, FGC14114-, FGC14115-, FGC14124-, FGC14126-, FGC14934-, FGC14951-, FGC17099-, FGC17102-, FGC17112-, FGC17114-, FGC20556-, FGC20747-, FGC20748-, FGC20755-, FGC20764-, FGC20767-, FGC20816-, FGC21115-, FGC21124-, FGC21129-, FGC23066-, FGC23071-, FGC23074-, FGC23079-, FGC23083-, FGC30918-, FGC30962-, FGC30964-, FGC30993-, FGC30994-, FGC31068-, FGC8127-, M225-, M756-, PH133-, PH2047-, S1041-, S400-, S7432-, SK2109-, Y13115-, Y14084-, Y14468-, Y14469-, Y15636-, Y15637-, Y15639-, Y15924-, Y15926-, Y16018-, Y16863-, Y17221-, Y17446-, Y17787-, Y4865-, Y4867-, Y5072-, Y5077-, Y6949-, Y6951-, Y7363-, Y7364-, YP4295-, Z1513-, Z1899-, Z20907-, Z220-, Z223-, Z226-, Z229-, Z2543-, Z2545-, Z2547-, Z2556-, Z2560-, Z2563-
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    Kit 399633
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    P297+, P310+, P311+, P312+, DF27+, L23+, L278+, L389+, L51+, M269+, M343+, Z2564+, ZZ12_1+, ZZ12_2-, ZZ19_1-, Z2566-, Z2567-, Z2571-, Z268-, Z274-, Z29614-, Z29624-, Z29875-, Z29878-, Z29884-, Z32156-, Z32164-, Z34609-, Z37492-, M73-, MC14-, M335-, L513-, L584-, L617-, L881-, M1994-, M222-, L408-, L47-, L48-, L371-, L238-, A2145-, A2146-, A431-, A432-, A433-, A434-, A4658-, A4659-, A6456-, A6458-, A7014-, A7380-, A7385-, BY2285-, BY3232-, BY3233-, BY3235-, BY3286-, BY3287-, BY3288-, BY3289-, BY3290-, BY3291-, BY3292-, BY834-, CTS1090-, CTS1643-, CTS416-, CTS5885-, CTS6578-, CTS7768-, CTS9952-, DF79-, DF84-, FGC11369-, FGC11414-, FGC11419-, FGC13109-, FGC13125-, FGC14113-, FGC14114-, FGC14115-, FGC14124-, FGC14126-, FGC14934-, FGC14951-, FGC17099-, FGC17102-, FGC17112-, FGC17114-, FGC20556-, FGC20747-, FGC20748-, FGC20755-, FGC20764-, FGC20767-, FGC20816-, FGC21115-, FGC21124-, FGC21129-, FGC23066-, FGC23071-, FGC23074-, FGC23079-, FGC23083-, FGC30918-, FGC30962-, FGC30964-, FGC30993-, FGC30994-, FGC31068-, FGC8127-, M225-, M756-, PH133-, PH2047-, S1041-, S400-, S7432-, SK2109-, Y13115-, Y14084-, Y14468-, Y14469-, Y15636-, Y15637-, Y15639-, Y15924-, Y15926-, Y16018-, Y16863-, Y17221-, Y17446-, Y17787-, Y4865-, Y4867-, Y5072-, Y5077-, Y6949-, Y6951-, Y7363-, Y7364-, YP4295-, Z1513-, Z1899-, Z20907-, Z220-, Z223-, Z226-, Z229-, Z2543-, Z2545-, Z2547-, Z2556-, Z2560-, Z2563-, PF3252-, PF6610-, PF6714-, PF7562-, PF7589-, PF7600-, S1026-, S1051-, S11493-, S11601-, S12025-, S1567-, S16264-, S1688-, S18632-, S18827-, S7721-, SRY2627-, U106-, U152-, V88-, Y5058-, Z156-, Z16500-, Z17-, Z17300-, Z18-, Z1862-, Z195-, Z198-, Z209-, Z2103-, Z2109-, Z225-, Z251-, Z253-, Z2542-, Z255-, Z2573-, Z295-, Z296-, Z301-, Z302-, Z326-, Z36-, Z367-, Z381-, Z49-, Z8-, Z8052-, Z8056-, Z9-, A1773-, A2150-, A274-, A4670-, A517-, BY2823-, BY2868-, BY575-, BY653-, CTS10429-, CTS11567-, CTS11994-, CTS1751-, CTS3386-, CTS4466-, CTS4528-, CTS5330-, CTS5689-, CTS6937-, CTS7763-, DF103-, DF110-, DF17-, DF19-, DF21-, DF41-, DF49-, DF63-, DF81-, DF83-, DF88-, DF95-, DF99-, F2691-, F2863-, FGC10516-, FGC11134-, FGC13620-, FGC20761-, FGC22501-, FGC396-, FGC5301-, FGC5336-, FGC5344-, FGC5345-, FGC5351-, FGC5354-, FGC5356-, FGC5367-, FGC5373-, FGC5494-, FGC5798-, L1335-, L2-, L21-
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    Last edited by lgmayka; 12-15-2015 at 10:48 PM.

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    It's an INDEL, I wonder if that could have anything to do with reporting issues.

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    Frankly, both men have spent $200 each (on the M343 and DF27 SNP packs) just to find out that their anciently diverged lineages are unknown in Western Europe.

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    The two kits' results have now changed. The Z2564 results have been negated. Now:

    #196199
    DF27+ ZZ12_1+ ZZ19_1+
    ZZ20_1 in progress
    Z31644 will not be tested
    Other SNPs downstream of ZZ19_1 negative

    #399633
    DF27+ ZZ12_1+
    BY3327, BY3328, BY3329, BY3330, BY3331, BY3332 in progress
    Other SNPs downstream of ZZ12_1 negative

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    Hi I just got the same result like two Polish man: BY3332
    What does it mean?
    Why is it fleaky?
    Can you tell me something more about this subclade?
    Thanks

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    Deleted a sort of "preaching to the choir" post.
    Last edited by razyn; 07-27-2019 at 01:55 AM. Reason: Noticed that I was replying unnecessarily to a 2015 complaint.

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