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Thread: R-L21, R-DF13 and R-DF21 in Ireland 3,500-4,000 YA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rory Cain View Post
    The M222 guys were the big winners from FTDNA's Deep Clade test in 2006. Nothing in it for the DF21+ guys ...
    Just on a historical note M222 was found in 1999 and commercialised first by Jim Wilson and David Faux of Ethnoancestry in March 2006. Only after that did ftdna start selling it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacUalraig View Post
    Just on a historical note M222 was found in 1999 and commercialised first by Jim Wilson and David Faux of Ethnoancestry in March 2006. Only after that did ftdna start selling it.

    For further fascinating historical titbits see http://www.kennedydna.com/HistoryOfM222.pdf
    Which would be consistent with what I stated about M222 being part of FTDNA's Deep Clade test in 2006. Just one year before, in 2005, the late Roy Cain & I did a haplogroup test that gave R1b males just one SNP, and that was P25. FTDNA's marketing almost discouraged customers from taking that test- a curious stance for a commercial company! It apparently reflected their own lack of interest in SNPs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oneillabu View Post
    Regarding the Latta result that was hailed as proof of the Belgic origin of DF21 ...
    The same Continental theorists were sucked in by a Montgomery who listed his country of origin as France, based on one of the numerous Montgomery lines traditionally being descended from a Norman. Of the numerous haplogroups found in persons bearing the surname Montgomery, DF21 would be amongst the least likely to be winner of the Norman lottery.

    In fact that particular Montgomery should perhaps look at how many kinsfolk he has who bear the Scots surname of Jameson. But he fooled a few folks who should have known better with his listing of France as his supposed place of origin.

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