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    Gedrosia K3 🤔

    Is it reliable calculator? It is ok, that I'm usually 50% Greek with some Albanian and Iranian percentages in some latest calculators, I'm used to it. But this calc shows I'm 100% Greek-Pamiri, and Chechen is only on 8th position lol

    This program is based on 4-Ancestors Oracle Version 0.96 by Alexandr Burnashev.
    Questions about results should be sent to him at: [email protected]
    Original concept proposed by Sergey Kozlov.
    Many thanks to Alexandr for helping us get this web version developed.

    Eurasia K3 Oracle

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 88.86
    2 E_Eurasian 10.44


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Finnish @ 0.846152
    2 Mordovian @ 0.869283
    3 Russian @ 1.044825
    4 Adygei @ 2.025127
    5 Turkish @ 2.365166
    6 Balkar @ 2.594978
    7 Iranian @ 3.242303
    8 Kurd_C @ 3.520691
    9 Chechen @ 3.810223
    10 Kurd_N @ 5.261378
    11 Loschbour @ 6.656588
    12 Abkhasian @ 7.138243
    13 Estonian @ 7.669017
    14 Georgian_Jew @ 7.832011
    15 Belarusian @ 8.328807
    16 Iranian_Jew @ 9.003576
    17 Ukrainian @ 9.242114
    18 Georgian @ 9.577565
    19 Armenian @ 9.725733
    20 Assyrian @ 9.887788

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Greek +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.000000
    2 50% Albanian +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.341482
    3 50% Adygei +50% Turkish @ 0.349555
    4 50% French_South +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.479038
    5 50% Adygei +50% Balkar @ 0.501504
    6 50% French +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.537146
    7 50% English +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.556201
    8 50% Bergamo +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.563354
    9 50% Spanish +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.597986
    10 50% Balkar +50% Chechen @ 0.725000
    11 50% Sardinian +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.776950
    12 50% LBK_EN +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.819405
    13 50% Finnish +50% Finnish @ 0.846152
    14 50% Finnish +50% Mordovian @ 0.866030
    15 50% Mordovian +50% Mordovian @ 0.869283
    16 50% Croatian +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.876901
    17 50% Mordovian +50% Russian @ 0.881391
    18 50% Adygei +50% Russian @ 0.893183
    19 50% Czech +50% Tajik_Pomiri @ 0.928635
    20 50% Finnish +50% Russian @ 0.936693


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Abkhasian +25% Pathan @ 0.000000

    Done.

    Elapsed time 0.0407 seconds.

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    Here's my result, Tag Heuer, I think it'd be interesting for you, you have Chechen as your ethnicity and Chechen is my first result. But I have only about 25% Caucasian ancestry (known).

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 91.19
    2 E_Eurasian 8.72

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Chechen @ 0.922652
    2 Adygei @ 0.944155
    3 Mordovian @ 2.778294
    4 Finnish @ 3.021341
    5 Kurd_N @ 3.074633
    6 Kurd_C @ 3.483118
    7 Russian @ 3.495690
    8 Loschbour @ 3.739025
    9 Abkhasian @ 4.315458
    10 Estonian @ 4.758852
    11 Turkish @ 5.263214
    12 Belarusian @ 5.422493
    13 Balkar @ 5.436022
    14 Georgian_Jew @ 5.437873
    15 Iranian @ 5.446017
    16 Ukrainian @ 6.345261
    17 Iranian_Jew @ 6.744101
    18 Georgian @ 6.818317
    19 Armenian @ 7.157168
    20 Lithuanian @ 7.173203

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Adygei +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
    2 50% Balkar +50% Belarusian @ 0.000000
    3 50% Loschbour +50% Russian @ 0.000000
    4 50% Balkar +50% Estonian @ 0.285645
    5 50% Finnish +50% Loschbour @ 0.297348
    6 50% Abkhasian +50% Russian @ 0.378817
    7 50% Balkar +50% Ukrainian @ 0.468577
    8 50% Loschbour +50% Mordovian @ 0.484391
    9 50% Estonian +50% Russian @ 0.633799
    10 50% Abkhasian +50% Finnish @ 0.642479
    11 50% Abkhasian +50% Balkar @ 0.708630
    12 50% Abkhasian +50% Mordovian @ 0.761658
    13 50% Balkar +50% Loschbour @ 0.846017
    14 50% Estonian +50% Finnish @ 0.871052
    15 50% Balkar +50% Lithuanian @ 0.877043
    16 50% Chechen +50% Chechen @ 0.922652
    17 50% Chechen +50% Mordovian @ 0.933262
    18 50% Balkar +50% Hungarian @ 0.943369
    19 50% Adygei +50% Adygei @ 0.944155
    20 50% Estonian +50% Turkish @ 0.962744


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Kalash +25% Stuttgart @ 0.000000

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    It is what it is. It is only K3, so Oracles will have some limitations on figuring things out. Everyone pressed Kurd to put it up when he discussed it in a forum post, so he did and we all had some fun with it.

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    Here is the original thread if you want to read what you missed!

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post117279

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    Quote Originally Posted by psaglav View Post
    Here's my result, Tag Heuer, I think it'd be interesting for you, you have Chechen as your ethnicity and Chechen is my first result. But I have only about 25% Caucasian ancestry (known).

    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 91.19
    2 E_Eurasian 8.72

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Chechen @ 0.922652
    2 Adygei @ 0.944155
    3 Mordovian @ 2.778294
    4 Finnish @ 3.021341
    5 Kurd_N @ 3.074633
    6 Kurd_C @ 3.483118
    7 Russian @ 3.495690
    8 Loschbour @ 3.739025
    9 Abkhasian @ 4.315458
    10 Estonian @ 4.758852
    11 Turkish @ 5.263214
    12 Belarusian @ 5.422493
    13 Balkar @ 5.436022
    14 Georgian_Jew @ 5.437873
    15 Iranian @ 5.446017
    16 Ukrainian @ 6.345261
    17 Iranian_Jew @ 6.744101
    18 Georgian @ 6.818317
    19 Armenian @ 7.157168
    20 Lithuanian @ 7.173203

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Adygei +50% Chechen @ 0.000000
    2 50% Balkar +50% Belarusian @ 0.000000
    3 50% Loschbour +50% Russian @ 0.000000
    4 50% Balkar +50% Estonian @ 0.285645
    5 50% Finnish +50% Loschbour @ 0.297348
    6 50% Abkhasian +50% Russian @ 0.378817
    7 50% Balkar +50% Ukrainian @ 0.468577
    8 50% Loschbour +50% Mordovian @ 0.484391
    9 50% Estonian +50% Russian @ 0.633799
    10 50% Abkhasian +50% Finnish @ 0.642479
    11 50% Abkhasian +50% Balkar @ 0.708630
    12 50% Abkhasian +50% Mordovian @ 0.761658
    13 50% Balkar +50% Loschbour @ 0.846017
    14 50% Estonian +50% Finnish @ 0.871052
    15 50% Balkar +50% Lithuanian @ 0.877043
    16 50% Chechen +50% Chechen @ 0.922652
    17 50% Chechen +50% Mordovian @ 0.933262
    18 50% Balkar +50% Hungarian @ 0.943369
    19 50% Adygei +50% Adygei @ 0.944155
    20 50% Estonian +50% Turkish @ 0.962744


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Kalash +25% Stuttgart @ 0.000000
    That's nteresting! And what is your actual ethnicity? I guess you're from S. Europe, maybe Italian?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randwulf View Post
    It is what it is. It is only K3, so Oracles will have some limitations on figuring things out. Everyone pressed Kurd to put it up when he discussed it in a forum post, so he did and we all had some fun with it.
    I'd say I'm more shocked with Finnish being at 1st position (followed by Mordovian and Russian)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tag Heuer View Post
    I'd say I'm more shocked with Finnish being at 1st position (followed by Mordovian and Russian)
    Yes, for my tribe it only got my mom right as far as the Oracles. The percentages were pretty much on, except my father in law scored lower SSA than most non-Gedrosia calculators give. I think it is because for FTDNA kits, this one only was based on a little over 11K SNPs and one of the low coverage areas happened to be at a place where my FIL has a large SSA segment.

    Here was my tribe:

    http://www.anthrogenica.com/showthre...l=1#post117398
    Last edited by randwulf; 01-02-2016 at 07:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tag Heuer View Post
    That's nteresting! And what is your actual ethnicity? I guess you're from S. Europe, maybe Italian?
    I'm a mix of Balkan and Caucasus (Circassian and some Armenian) mainly but also a little bit NE Europe, I think. (the first two are definite)

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    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 94.01
    2 E_Eurasian 5.87


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

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    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 Loschbour @ 0.250740
    2 Abkhasian @ 0.607020
    3 Estonian @ 0.751893
    4 Belarusian @ 1.413476
    5 Ukrainian @ 2.334651
    6 Georgian_Jew @ 2.742427
    7 Kurd_N @ 2.756531
    8 Georgian @ 2.951991
    9 Chechen @ 3.100636
    10 Lithuanian @ 3.162952
    11 Hungarian @ 3.290052
    12 Armenian @ 3.650957
    13 Bulgarian @ 3.757325
    14 Iranian_Jew @ 3.990042
    15 Norwegian @ 4.223517
    16 Assyrian @ 4.415520
    17 Czech @ 4.573568
    18 Croatian @ 4.656250
    19 Ashkenazi_Jew @ 4.898965
    20 Adygei @ 4.900198

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +50% Loschbour @ 0.000000
    2 50% Adygei +50% Croatian @ 0.000000
    3 50% Adygei +50% Czech @ 0.000000
    4 50% Bergamo +50% Finnish @ 0.000000
    5 50% Bergamo +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
    6 50% Chechen +50% Hungarian @ 0.000000
    7 50% Chechen +50% Lithuanian @ 0.000000
    8 50% Estonian +50% Loschbour @ 0.000000
    9 50% Finnish +50% French_South @ 0.000000
    10 50% French_South +50% Mordovian @ 0.000000
    11 50% Loschbour +50% Loschbour @ 0.250740
    12 50% Adygei +50% Norwegian @ 0.274780
    13 50% Bergamo +50% Russian @ 0.282730
    14 50% Chechen +50% Ukrainian @ 0.293930
    15 50% Adygei +50% French @ 0.315660
    16 50% French_South +50% Russian @ 0.380981
    17 50% English +50% Mordovian @ 0.401257
    18 50% Russian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.445966
    19 50% Abkhasian +50% Estonian @ 0.519480
    20 50% English +50% Finnish @ 0.522499


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Abkhasian +25% Chechen +25% Lithuanian @ 0.000000

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    Admix Results (sorted):

    # Population Percent
    1 W_Eurasian 98.32
    2 E_Eurasian 1.68


    Finished reading population data. 129 populations found.
    3 components mode.

    --------------------------------

    Least-squares method.

    Using 1 population approximation:
    1 English @ 0.000000
    2 French @ 0.659104
    3 French_South @ 0.988674
    4 Albanian @ 1.127320
    5 Bergamo @ 1.217764
    6 Croatian @ 1.356668
    7 Czech @ 1.438362
    8 Greek @ 1.510967
    9 Norwegian @ 1.788443
    10 LBK_EN @ 2.102570
    11 Sardinian @ 2.146193
    12 Stuttgart @ 2.374641
    13 Bulgarian @ 2.475791
    14 Spanish @ 2.545579
    15 Hungarian @ 2.721985
    16 Lithuanian @ 2.849464
    17 Georgian @ 3.584252
    18 Ukrainian @ 3.677363
    19 Armenian @ 4.215849
    20 Sicilian @ 4.247978

    Using 2 populations approximation:
    1 50% English +50% English @ 0.000000
    2 50% Hungarian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.000000
    3 50% Lithuanian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.000000
    4 50% Norwegian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.000000
    5 50% English +50% French @ 0.326126
    6 50% Bulgarian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.350600
    7 50% Bergamo +50% Czech @ 0.453473
    8 50% Bergamo +50% Croatian @ 0.463345
    9 50% Czech +50% Stuttgart @ 0.468414
    10 50% Croatian +50% Stuttgart @ 0.510791
    11 50% Czech +50% French_South @ 0.527392
    12 50% Croatian +50% French_South @ 0.533033
    13 50% Bergamo +50% Norwegian @ 0.541857
    14 50% French +50% French_South @ 0.544803
    15 50% English +50% French_South @ 0.559835
    16 50% Bergamo +50% French @ 0.602923
    17 50% French_South +50% Norwegian @ 0.624316
    18 50% Bergamo +50% English @ 0.638759
    19 50% Albanian +50% English @ 0.641806
    20 50% Stuttgart +50% Ukrainian @ 0.651518


    Using 3 populations approximation:
    1 50% Croatian +25% English +25% Stuttgart @ 0.000000

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