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    Processed meats do cause cancer - WHO

    http://www.bbc.com/news/health-34615621

    According to the WHO: ''50g of processed meat a day - less than two slices of bacon - increased the chance of developing colorectal cancer by 18%''

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    Being alive kills you, new research reveals

    Further research emerged today funded by Cancer UK, confirming the link between being alive at some point and the inevitability of death at a further point in the future. The latest research focuses specifically on the dangers of eating food in promoting death from cancer, in particular red meat this time. ‘There is no doubt that eating red meat increases your risk of cancer’, stated Professor Tom Grant. ‘All the indicators are that if you are still alive as a consequence of not dying from anything else, it is likely that you will die of eating red meat eventually. Or something else.’

    Meanwhile, the Daily Express released new evidence earlier that the ill effects of eating red meat could be countered by the early onset of dementia or heart disease killing you first, although frustratingly eating red meat reduces the risk of these things killing you before eating red meat does.

    ‘Basically our research shows that being alive comes with 100% of dying in the long term.’ said Professor Grant.

    Other headlines....

    "Carcinogens 'probably cause cancer' says top scientists."

    "Bacon eaters will have to go outside the office 'to indulge in their filthy habit'."

    "Members of Dangerous Sports Society to tackle crispy bacon sandwich."

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    From what I understand, there were no new findings, just a compilation of previous studies. So, there is really nothing new here, as we have been informed of this warning for years. It won't change my eating habits. I don't see any more risk in occasionally eating these meats than social drinking, or other "risky" activities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clinton P View Post
    Further research emerged today funded by Cancer UK, confirming the link between being alive at some point and the inevitability of death at a further point in the future. The latest research focuses specifically on the dangers of eating food in promoting death from cancer, in particular red meat this time. ‘There is no doubt that eating red meat increases your risk of cancer’, stated Professor Tom Grant. ‘All the indicators are that if you are still alive as a consequence of not dying from anything else, it is likely that you will die of eating red meat eventually. Or something else.’

    Meanwhile, the Daily Express released new evidence earlier that the ill effects of eating red meat could be countered by the early onset of dementia or heart disease killing you first, although frustratingly eating red meat reduces the risk of these things killing you before eating red meat does.

    ‘Basically our research shows that being alive comes with 100% of dying in the long term.’ said Professor Grant.

    Other headlines....

    "Carcinogens 'probably cause cancer' says top scientists."

    "Bacon eaters will have to go outside the office 'to indulge in their filthy habit'."

    "Members of Dangerous Sports Society to tackle crispy bacon sandwich."

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    what the article misses out in the famously healthy Mediterranean includes lots of treated cold meats, sausage etc and lots of ham.

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    With processed meats, it's the additive compounds (nitrate and nitrite containing salts are the usual implicated culprits) that are the main "enemy".

    With non-processed meats, it's the high saturated fat content and overcooking (burning) that's the problem (applies to processed as well if undertaken).

    There's also the issue of genetic predisposition (though it's not particularly prevalent), other dietary behaviour and conditions (e.g. ulcerative colitis) which set people up to developing colorectal cancer.

    Cancer is itself a multifactoral pathology. I've (very unfortunately) seen several lifelong vegans succumb to some nasty forms of cancer, despite doing everything right on paper. There was some kerfuffle in the medical community earlier this year regarding a meta-analysis of oncological data, where the authors concluded cancer risk was a third each due to environment, inherent predisposition and "bad luck".

    Also, the WHO's placement of processed meats next to things like smoking are quite preposterous. There is both correlation and direct causation data showing the effects those 50+ chemicals in cigarette smoke have on a cellular level. As I understand it, even the data on nitrates and nitrites is inconclusive. The cumulative risk of eating processed meats is only 1% higher when compared to non-meat eaters anyway.

    In short, I question the rationale behind this move. Smoking, excess alcohol consumption, no exercise and excess sugar are far worse for you than the occasional bacon sarnie.

    Someone in the WHO's certainly made a pig's ear through this ludicrous ranking system.

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    no disrespect to you DMXX but for the dopey Dr.s/researchers behind this...
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    Ok, I get that bacon is cute when it's little
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    and it is always possible this is true...
    bacon women are like it.jpg

    but really, how can you disagree with Picard?
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    after all, is this not the truest thing you have ever read?
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    I am having some nice thin sliced but deli style stacked cappocola on an onion bun for lunch today
    I will have some lovely Montreal smoked meat in a similar style tomorrow
    and to celebrate the idjit WHO nonsense, I will have a magnificent BLT for lunch on Friday

    Yummm

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    The Mongols had two main food groups—the white foods and the red. The white, of course, were the milk products. The red foods were meat, and Mongols ate meat from all of their animals. Meat was either skewered and roasted over fire, or boiled into stews and soups.

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    Is colorectal cancer more frequent in mongolians?

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