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    Egyptian Copts high in E-V65

    Reliable sources are telling me that out of 8 Copts they share with on 23andMe, 5 of them are V65+. The sub-clade breakdown is:

    - 5 E-V65 (62.5%)
    - 1 E-M123 (12.5%)
    - 1 J-M267 (12.5%)
    - 1 T-M70 (12.5%)

    Anyone else here sharing with Copts on 23andMe and willing to add data?

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    I am a copt and 23andme tells my my Paternal DNA is E1b1b1c1a, I'm not sure which sub-clade this is. I'm sharing with other copts who have E1b1b1c, E1b1b1a and E1b1b1c

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    Quote Originally Posted by nee4speed111 View Post
    I am a copt and 23andme tells my my Paternal DNA is E1b1b1c1a, I'm not sure which sub-clade this is. I'm sharing with other copts who have E1b1b1c, E1b1b1a and E1b1b1c
    I'm not sure how behind 23andme is but I suspect E1b1b1c is E-M34.

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    23andMe's E1b1b1c1a is E-M84, which is downstream of M34 and M123.

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    23andMe uses ISOGG's 2009 nomenclature, so E1b1b1c1a is E-M84, just like Lank said.
    מְכֹרֹתַיִךְ וּמֹלְדֹתַיִךְ מֵאֶרֶץ הַכְּנַעֲנִי אָבִיךְ הָאֱמֹרִי וְאִמֵּךְ חִתִּית
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    νῆα κατισχέμεναι: ἐπεὶ οὐκέτι πιστὰ γυναιξίν.


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    The heck is it with E-M84 nowadays... Drobbah and I turned up with two supposedly Somali relatives who were E-M84 (mtDNA markers are L2a1a2 & L3f1a) whilst Lank recently noticed the following:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by Lank
    I checked my 23andMe shares, I wasn't aware but 23andMe does test for M84.

    I have 3 shares with M34. Of these, 2 are M84 (both Ethiopian, not related to me). One is Eritrean, one of my closest 23andMe relatives, and he is not M84 but rather M290, a very rare branch which has previously only been found in Palestine. Interestingly when looking at my relative finder list, I found one more dude who belongs to the rare M290. I also have one M84 relative, Ethiopian adoptee of unknown origins (but typical Habesha results).


    Anyway, need4speed. You're that fellow who recently added me on 23andme, yes? You and him have the same Y-DNA and mtDNA markers and he is a "North African", I'm assuming this is no coincidence. Anyway, Agamemnon and Lank are quite correct as Passa pointed out to me a little while back in private:

     
    Quote Originally Posted by Passa
    c = M123
    c1 = M34
    c1a = M84
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    Quote Originally Posted by nee4speed111 View Post
    I am a copt and 23andme tells my my Paternal DNA is E1b1b1c1a, I'm not sure which sub-clade this is. I'm sharing with other copts who have E1b1b1c, E1b1b1a and E1b1b1c
    Would be great if you could take a FTDNA SNP pack or even better Fullgenomes/Big-Y. I guess Copts would be Y14899+, like Palestinian Christians or Ashkenazis.
    E-M84>FGC18389>FGC18413>FGC18401>FGC18422>Y99171 tMRCA 2550ybp

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    Quote Originally Posted by Awale View Post
    The heck is it with E-M84 nowadays... Drobbah and I turned up with two supposedly Somali relatives who were E-M84 (mtDNA markers are L2a1a2 & L3f1a) whilst Lank recently noticed the following:

     


    Anyway, need4speed. You're that fellow who recently added me on 23andme, yes? You and him have the same Y-DNA and mtDNA markers and he is a "North African", I'm assuming this is no coincidence. Anyway, Agamemnon and Lank are quite correct as Passa pointed out to me a little while back in private:

     
    yeah that's me, I'm relatively new to this DNA stuff so have just been adding people who look interesting.

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    reading all this mybe e-m34 originated in ethiopia
    and not egypt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nee4speed111 View Post
    I am a copt and 23andme tells my my Paternal DNA is E1b1b1c1a, I'm not sure which sub-clade this is. I'm sharing with other copts who have E1b1b1c, E1b1b1a and E1b1b1c
    Fantastic! Could you tell us more about this? How many Copts are you sharing with? What are other haplogroups among them beside E?

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