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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    so what can we deduce from these haplogroups?
    Copts have a really high frequency of E-M123 (28% according to your data), which peaks in Dead Sea Jordanians and in some Ethiopian populations. Among Egyptian Arabs it has a frequency of 7%. They also have a higher frequency of E-V65 compared to the rest of Egyptians and most other North Africans. Not sure whether to consider the high M123 in Copts as being an ancient retention or recent founder effect of Levantine origin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Passa View Post
    Copts have a really high frequency of E-M123 (28% according to your data), which peaks in Dead Sea Jordanians and in some Ethiopian populations. Among Egyptian Arabs it has a frequency of 7%. They also have a higher frequency of E-V65 compared to the rest of Egyptians and most other North Africans. Not sure whether to consider the high M123 in Copts as being an ancient retention or recent founder effect of Levantine origin.
    If this subclade is of levantine origin..then what haplogroup would have been considered of native egyptian origin?>

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifeisdandy View Post
    If this subclade is of levantine origin..then what haplogroup would have been considered of native egyptian origin?>
    E-V12(xV32), E-V65 and E-V22 were probably part of the Ancient Egyptian gene pool, but of course we need aDNA from Egypt to confirm this assumption.
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    These Copts are from Egypt?
    Egyptians copts are considered as closest egyptians to the anciant egyptians..
    So E-v65 seems to be significaly present among these ethnic population, even more than in north african samples , perhaps it 's a signal of the origin of this subhaplogroup?
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    By the way Passa if i understand E1b1b1a4 is equivalent to e-v65?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jof2311 View Post
    By the way Passa if i understand E1b1b1a4 is equivalent to e-v65?
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    Yes, E1b1b1a4 is V65 according to ISOGG nomenclature.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jof2311 View Post
    These Copts are from Egypt?
    Egyptians copts are considered as closest egyptians to the anciant egyptians..
    So E-v65 seems to be significaly present among these ethnic population, even more than in north african samples , perhaps it 's a signal of the origin of this subhaplogroup?
    Too early to tell. When more samples will be analysed by YFull we could make assumptions regarding the place of origin of V65.
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    Oh, indeed it's too early, it would be just a clue.
    It would be interesting too to know from where are these copts in Egypt..
    E-v65 is supposed to be close to E-v12 wich seems to be absent in these samples..?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jof2311 View Post
    Oh, indeed it's too early, it would be just a clue.
    It would be interesting too to know from where are these copts in Egypt..
    E-v65 is supposed to be close to E-v12 wich seems to be absent in these samples..?
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    Most copts are originally from upper and middle egypt originally...

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    Ok Lifeisdandy
    , Upper and middle Egypt, more samples could be very interesting for both sisters clades v12 and v65, for understanding their split and spread..
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