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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Here is Romania for me
    Here's what I have so far in terms of foreign origins from Arhondologia Moldovei (letters "A" and "B").

    Note: Tutova = Vaslui nowadays

    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Here's what I have so far in terms of foreign origins from Arhondologia Moldovei (letters "A" and "B").

    Note: Tutova = Vaslui nowadays

    Thank you! This list mentions a surname Alexa/Bosie. Not sure if Lupu's line intermarried with them. I read that Lupu's line was intersected through marriage with the following Moldovan noble families: Bucioc, Boulesti, and Abazesti.

    Vasil/Basil Lupu's Koci/Coci line was carried on by his son Stefan who married the daughter of Petru Rareș and indirectly via his brother Gavril/Gabriel Coci whose descendant was one "Hatmanul". I tried googling Hatmanul. Who is this individual? Nothing comes up.

    I am wondering if there are any today who claim descent from Lupu in either Moldovia, Romania, or Bulgaria(seemingly Razgrad). If there are any who claim descent from the line, and or still bear the surname Coci/Koci or the title Lupu, I would love to test/donate towards them and see if there is a connection. I would imagine if someone from his line matches me on YDNA that Lupu's ancestors line and my own would have split in Macedonia/Epirus 500-600+ years ago.
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Thank you! This list mentions a surname Alexa/Bosie. Not sure if Lupu's line intermarried with them. I read that Lupu's line was intersected through marriage with the following Moldovan noble families: Bucioc, Boulesti, and Abazesti.

    Vasil/Basil Lupu's Koci/Coci line was carried on by his son Stefan who married the daughter of Petru Rareș and indirectly via his brother Gavril/Gabriel Coci whose descendant was one "Hatmanul". I tried googling Hatmanul. Who is this individual? Nothing comes up.

    I am wondering if there are any today who claim descent from Lupu in either Moldovia, Romania, or Bulgaria(seemingly Razgrad). If there are any who claim descent from the line, and or still bear the surname Coci/Koci or the title Lupu, I would love to test/donate towards them and see if there is a connection. I would imagine if someone from his line matches me on YDNA that Lupu's ancestors line and my own would have split in Macedonia/Epirus 500-600+ years ago.
    Hmm, I don't have any further info on Lupu's descendants, but maybe these guys could help you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghica_family

    We also have this thing, but I don't know how helpful it will be.
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    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    Hmm, I don't have any further info on Lupu's descendants, but maybe these guys could help you.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ghica_family

    We also have this thing, but I don't know how helpful it will be.
    Romania
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    Thank you so much dude! thats awesome. I will shoot them an email. Maybe they know something. Do they speak English or should I google translate into Romanian? lol
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dibran View Post
    Thank you so much dude! thats awesome. I will shoot them an email. Maybe they know something. Do they speak English or should I google translate into Romanian? lol
    English should be enough, especially given that some of them from that list seem to have descendants abroad.
    Known ancestry: 1/2 Romanian Northeast + 1/4 Romanian Southeast + 1/4 Romanian Bukovina Ukraine
    23andme: 53.6% Greek & Balkan (4% Broadly South Euro), 35.7% East Euro, 0.3% Ashkenazi Jewish, 6.5% Broadly Euro
    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dorkymon View Post
    English should be enough, especially given that some of them from that list seem to have descendants abroad.
    Are they familiar with genetics? I kinda got detailed in my email but then I didn't realize whether they were just genealogy based or not lol. hopefully get a response.
    Known Ancestry: Albanian
    23andme results: 94% Balkan, 0.9% Italian, 0.8% Middle Eastern, 2.2% broadly southern European, 0.3 British & Irish, 0.3% Japanese, 0.5% unassigned
    MyOrigins2.0: 100% Southeast European
    MyAncientOrigins: 62% Farmer, 24% Hunter Gatherer, 14% Metal Age Invader
    MyHeritage: 76% Greek, 16% Balkan, 8% Italian
    WeGene: 99.5% Balkan, 0.5% unassigned
    GenePlaza: 92.7% East Mediterranean, 5.2% Southwestern European, 1.5% Ambiguous
    DNA.LAND: 95% Balkan, 5% Sardinian

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    MyHeritage: 92.2% Balkan, 5.8% English, 1.1% Eskimo, 0.9% Japanese
    FTDNA: 45% Southeast Euro, 45% East Euro, 4% British Isles, 3% West Middle East, 2% NE Asia
    Global 25: Anatolia_N 50.2%, EHG 32.6%, CHG 11.2%, WHG 3.8%, East Asian 2.2%
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