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    Quote Originally Posted by AJL View Post
    Their mtDNA might be more distinct still than their yDNA, with HV, R0, and the like.



    Don't forget yDNA F and H. These are not numerous but are relatively more common in South Asia and parts of Central, and are perhaps interesting for this conversation because there are also pockets in the northern Near East/West Asia, as well as in Europe. (In fact, I have a Swiss yDNA F Relative Finder cousin, and if that pattern holds, my guess is the F and H distribution in Europe is similar to that of L, so these are probably all worth mentioning at once.)
    Yes I know those exist. I didn't mention them because that wasn't a grey area imo. There would be no reason to attribute F or H to Armenians since those lineages aren't really shared unlike J2a, G2a etc

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    Quote Originally Posted by newtoboard View Post
    Yes I know those exist. I didn't mention them because that wasn't a grey area imo. There would be no reason to attribute F or H to Armenians since those lineages aren't really shared unlike J2a, G2a etc
    From memory there's some F among Armenians, though I don't know about H. Armenians of course also have L, but it tends to be L2, as does the L of Mediterranean Europeans as well as northern Semites such as Syrians and Jews.
     

    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by AJL View Post
    Their mtDNA might be more distinct still than their yDNA, with HV, R0, and the like.



    Don't forget yDNA F and H. These are not numerous but are relatively more common in South Asia and parts of Central, and are perhaps interesting for this conversation because there are also pockets in the northern Near East/West Asia, as well as in Europe. (In fact, I have a Swiss yDNA F Relative Finder cousin, and if that pattern holds, my guess is the F and H distribution in Europe is similar to that of L, so these are probably all worth mentioning at once.)
    Likewise, I have a fairly large segment 0.2 shared with a "South African" F, who I predict would be Dutch, but he never accepted my invite. I wouldn't be surprised if this very rare extant lineage dates back to those LBK immigrant farmer guys. The fact that "F" seems to show up in German speakers more often than non-German speakers might lend something to my theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ADW_1981 View Post
    I wouldn't be surprised if this very rare extant lineage dates back to those LBK immigrant farmer guys. The fact that "F" seems to show up in German speakers more often than non-German speakers might lend something to my theory.
    That could very well be.
     

    Other ancestral Y lines:

    E1b-M81 Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    E1b-V13 England
    I1-M253 Ireland
    I2-M423 Ukraine
    R1a-L176.1 Scotland
    R1b-L584 Syria/Turkey (Sephardi)
    R1b-L20 Ireland
    R1b-L21 (1)England; (2)Wales?>Connecticut
    R1b-L48 England
    R1b-P312 Scotland
    R1b-FGC32576 Ireland

    Other ancestral mtDNA lines:

    H1b2a Ukraine (Ashkenazi)
    H6a1a3 Ukraine
    K1a9 Belarus (Ashkenazi)
    K1c2 Ireland
    V7a Ukraine

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