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    Hui Haplogroups

    Does anyone have an overview of the haplogroups found in Chinese Hui people?
    Could not find any in FTDNA projects.
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    There are some Hui in academic studies. From Zhong et al 2011 "Extended Y-chromosome investigation suggests post-Glacial migrations of modern humans into East Asia via the northern route":

    Ningxia Hui (n=62): 2 D, 2 E, 11 C, 1 G1-M285, 1 G2a-P15, 1 H1*-M69, 1 J1-M267, 2 J2a-M67, 5 J2a*-M410, 1 L1c-M357, 5 N, 22 O, 2 Q1a1a1-M120, 1 R1*-M173, 2 R1a1a-M17, 1 R1b1a2-M269, 2 R2a-M124.
    Yunnan Hui (n=10): 1 C-M130, 1 J1-M267, 2 N-M231, 3 O-M175, 1 Q1a2-M346, 1 R1a1a-M17, 1 R1b-M335.

    Hui - or at least the ones selected for the study - have a much higher level of exotic haplogroups than Han do - around 40% of West/Central/South Asian haplogroups, which is about ten times the frequency in northern Han.

    Other studies focussing on specific haplogroups have also included Hui:

    D specifically: 1/24 D, which was D(xD1a, D1b, D1c1). A widespread paragroup, found in both Han and other North Asians, so doesn't mean much.

    C specifically: 11/61 C (18%), of which 5 C(xC1a1-M8, C1b1a1-M356, C2-M217), 6 C2(xC2b1a-M48, C2e1a-M407). Resolution is too low to tell us much, but the level of C* is unusually high and it would be interesting to know what it was.

    N specifically: 15/286 N (5%), of which 1 N1c2a1-M128, 2 N1c1a*-M178(xF3331), 1 N1c1a1*-F3331, 1 N1c1a1a1-F3271, 2 N1a*-F2930, 5 N1a1a*-F1833, 1 N1a2-F2569 (and 2 not genotyped). The majority is typical Chinese N1a-F2905 subclades. The N1c2a and rather basal N1c1 are also normal Han haplogroups, but the downstream N1c1-F3721(=F4205) is mainly found in Mongols and Kazakhs, being a Northeast Asian branch of the kind of N normally found in Finns and other Uralic speakers.

    O3a2c1-M134 specifically: 22/93 (24%), of whom 8 were O3a2c1a-M117, 14 O3a2c1b1a-F46 - the latter is probably the Oβ cluster identified in the “three Neolithic grandfathers” paper. Boring normal Han O3.

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    Pretty diverse. Seems they are a mix of local converts and immigrants from various sources.
    Wonder if these immigrants are linked to their immigrant family members, assuming the Hui ethnogenesis is not that old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Megalophias View Post
    There are some Hui in academic studies. From Zhong et al 2011 "Extended Y-chromosome investigation suggests post-Glacial migrations of modern humans into East Asia via the northern route":

    Ningxia Hui (n=62): 2 D, 2 E, 11 C, 1 G1-M285, 1 G2a-P15, 1 H1*-M69, 1 J1-M267, 2 J2a-M67, 5 J2a*-M410, 1 L1c-M357, 5 N, 22 O, 2 Q1a1a1-M120, 1 R1*-M173, 2 R1a1a-M17, 1 R1b1a2-M269, 2 R2a-M124.
    Yunnan Hui (n=10): 1 C-M130, 1 J1-M267, 2 N-M231, 3 O-M175, 1 Q1a2-M346, 1 R1a1a-M17, 1 R1b-M335.

    Hui - or at least the ones selected for the study - have a much higher level of exotic haplogroups than Han do - around 40% of West/Central/South Asian haplogroups, which is about ten times the frequency in northern Han.

    Other studies focussing on specific haplogroups have also included Hui:

    D specifically: 1/24 D, which was D(xD1a, D1b, D1c1). A widespread paragroup, found in both Han and other North Asians, so doesn't mean much.

    C specifically: 11/61 C (18%), of which 5 C(xC1a1-M8, C1b1a1-M356, C2-M217), 6 C2(xC2b1a-M48, C2e1a-M407). Resolution is too low to tell us much, but the level of C* is unusually high and it would be interesting to know what it was.

    N specifically: 15/286 N (5%), of which 1 N1c2a1-M128, 2 N1c1a*-M178(xF3331), 1 N1c1a1*-F3331, 1 N1c1a1a1-F3271, 2 N1a*-F2930, 5 N1a1a*-F1833, 1 N1a2-F2569 (and 2 not genotyped). The majority is typical Chinese N1a-F2905 subclades. The N1c2a and rather basal N1c1 are also normal Han haplogroups, but the downstream N1c1-F3721(=F4205) is mainly found in Mongols and Kazakhs, being a Northeast Asian branch of the kind of N normally found in Finns and other Uralic speakers.

    O3a2c1-M134 specifically: 22/93 (24%), of whom 8 were O3a2c1a-M117, 14 O3a2c1b1a-F46 - the latter is probably the Oβ cluster identified in the “three Neolithic grandfathers” paper. Boring normal Han O3.
    A minor nitpick: F4205 should probably be considered an East Central Asian branch, while B202 is truly "Northeast Asian" and CTS10760 and Z1936 are Uralic and Baltic speakers.


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