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    Red face Romanian 23andme

    Here I will exhibit the Romanian results that I have managed to collect. I will try to update this thread regularly when possible.

    I will divide Romania into three broad regions, which will be used to indicate the origin of the individual. They are the following: Southern Romania = Muntenia + Oltenia + Dobrogea (historic principality of Wallachia), Western Romania = Transilvania + Banat + Crisana + Maramures and Eastern Romania = Moldova + Bucovina (the part of the principality of Moldavia that's within the borders of Romania).


    Results:

    1. Southern Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: H9a




    2. Western Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: H2a2a




    3. Western Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: H2a2a




    4. Western Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: H2a2a




    5. Western Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: K1b2b




    6. Eastern Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: HV0




    7. Southern Romania Y-DNA: I2a2b, mtDNA: H7




    8. Southern Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: X2




    9. Eastern Romania (myself) Y-DNA: I2a1b, mtDNA: T2a1b




    10. Western Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: W1





    One important aspect that was probably noticed by yourselves as well is the presence of the East Asian component in most samples. I would need to get my hands on more data in order to find out if that's a mere coincidence or something that is characteristic for Romanians.

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    11. Southern Romania Y-DNA: E1b1b1a2, mtDNA: H9a




    12. Eastern Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: H5




    13. Western Romania Y-DNA: N, mtDNA: U2e1a




    14. Western Romania Y-DNA: J2a1b1, mtDNA: HV




    15. Western Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: J1c5




    16. Eastern Romania Y-DNA: R1a1a, mtDNA: H




    17. Eastern Romania Y-DNA: N/A, mtDNA: H





    Bonus:

    Szekler from Central Transylvania Y-DNA: R1b1b2a, mtDNA: H6a1b




    That would be it for today.

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    I also share with hundreds of Balkan people on 23andMe.
    My impression is that Romanians are not a homogeneous ethnicity, which is explicable in view of different others they assimilated on their current territory.
    However, those who used to live in the original Wallahia, i.e South and East of the Carpathian mountains are very similar to Bulgarians. Their results are more consistent with the South Western Balkan, than with the North and North West. It remains to be seen after aDNA testing if this was inherited from the original early Medieval population with some direct Slavic input from the North, or due to more recent population movement from areas South of the Danube, where the Slavic admixture actually happened.

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    I would expect the Szekely had significant more East asian than Romanians, but from your 2 samples its not the case.
    Do you also have Szekely from Bukovina?
    Of all the countries, this is possibly the most beautiful. All that is beautiful and can be rarely seen in
    other countries can be seen everywhere here... Here live the people who wear the cleanest clothes and prepare the
    most flavorful dishes... Of all of God’s servants, the local people are the most compassionate and merciful...

    Ibn Battuta about Asia Minor 1333CE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Afshar View Post
    I would expect the Szekely had significant more East asian than Romanians, but from your 2 samples its not the case.
    Do you also have Szekely from Bukovina?
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

    This is a Y-DNA project to investigate the genetic orgins and family history of the people who lived in the five Hungarian villages of Bukovina (Andrásfalva, Hadikfalva, Istensegíts, Fogadjisten, and Józseffalva). The villages were founded in the 1780's by Hungarian-speaking settlers after Austria acquired Bukovina from the Ottoman Empire. The majority of the settlers were Roman Catholic Székely from Transylvania, especially from the counties of Csík and Háromszék. A smaller number were Calvinists, who settled mainly in Andrásfalva. Some have been traced back to Szatmár-Németi and Nagybanya, and others to Maros County. Over the years, some people of other ethnic groups were absorbed into the village populations (predominately ethnic Germans, but also a few Romanians, Ukrainians, Poles, and Ruthenes).

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    Quote Originally Posted by gravetti View Post
    https://www.familytreedna.com/groups...out/background

    This is a Y-DNA project to investigate the genetic orgins and family history of the people who lived in the five Hungarian villages of Bukovina (Andrásfalva, Hadikfalva, Istensegíts, Fogadjisten, and Józseffalva). The villages were founded in the 1780's by Hungarian-speaking settlers after Austria acquired Bukovina from the Ottoman Empire. The majority of the settlers were Roman Catholic Székely from Transylvania, especially from the counties of Csík and Háromszék. A smaller number were Calvinists, who settled mainly in Andrásfalva. Some have been traced back to Szatmár-Németi and Nagybanya, and others to Maros County. Over the years, some people of other ethnic groups were absorbed into the village populations (predominately ethnic Germans, but also a few Romanians, Ukrainians, Poles, and Ruthenes).
    Reason I asked is that a significant percentage of Szekely have the Q(1a1b1) haplogroup which is theorized to be of Hunnic origin. I would expect to see that back in the autosomal makeup of the people that region.
    Of all the countries, this is possibly the most beautiful. All that is beautiful and can be rarely seen in
    other countries can be seen everywhere here... Here live the people who wear the cleanest clothes and prepare the
    most flavorful dishes... Of all of God’s servants, the local people are the most compassionate and merciful...

    Ibn Battuta about Asia Minor 1333CE

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    @Dorkymon

    Have you uploaded in the Gedmatch?

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    Interesting how consistent the very minor East Asian is.


    Does anybody share with Baboon (Mary's husband?). Even if he's a [unique] outlier, it would be interesting to see the Balkan score.
    Paternal Y-DNA haplogroup: E-M35>E-Z827>L19>M81>M183
    Maternal [grandfather] Y-DNA: E-M35>E-Z827>L19>M81>M183>PF2477>PF2546
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    13910: TT (rs4988235 AA)
    22018: AA (rs182549 TT)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crimean View Post
    @Dorkymon

    Have you uploaded in the Gedmatch?
    Can you actually download the raw data of the ones you share with?

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    I wondered the MDLP K23 admixture results.

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