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    E-M81 in Brazil

    According to a new study about "Male Lineages in Brazil", E-M81 was found at a frequency of 3.1% in a large sample of 1217 unrelated males from the five Brazilian geopolitical regions.

    Male Lineages in Brazil: Intercontinental Admixture and Stratification of the European Background

    3.1% is lower than in Portugal (5-6%) but as Brazil is a huge country with more than 200 million people, it means that potentially more than 6 million Brazilians descend from E-M81 men, which is BIG (10 times more than in Portugal in absolute numbers).

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    Maybe not all of Brazilian E-M81 is from Portugal:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rz1706 View Post
    According to a new study about "Male Lineages in Brazil", E-M81 was found at a frequency of 3.1% in a large sample of 1217 unrelated males from the five Brazilian geopolitical regions.

    Male Lineages in Brazil: Intercontinental Admixture and Stratification of the European Background

    3.1% is lower than in Portugal (5-6%) but as Brazil is a huge country with more than 200 million people, it means that potentially more than 6 million Brazilians descend from E-M81 men, which is BIG (10 times more than in Portugal in absolute numbers).

    Everything in Brazil is bigger, not just E-M81. The land is 100x bigger than Portugal and the population 20x. That's a good example of what conquest and colonization (or invasion and subjugation if you want) can do to the YDNA lineages of the conquerors and colonizers. The MtDNA picture is another story. Portuguese women stayed at home, at least most of them and certainly in the first centuries when conditions were tough. Maybe this is what happened with the M269 invasion of Western Europe although it seems that some of them brought their wives.

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    We need to know the Brazilian E-M81 full sequences. They arrived from Continental Portugal and from the Azores, probably some directly from the North African locations during the Portuguese occupation of some ports there. Of course the Brazilian population could grow extremely faster than any European population. I think even the Portuguese mtDNA is at least two times bigger in Brazil than in Portugal and the Portuguese Y-DNA is more than 10 times bigger here in Brazil.
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    Also percentage of E-M81 (3%) in Brazil is interesting because if we consider that the vast majority comes directly from Portugal, then it means that, given E-M81 frequency in Portugal at 5-6%, that about 50% of Brazilian paternal lineages are from Portugal.
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    E-V13 here, representing.

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    E-M81 frequency in Portugal at 5-6%
    It seems they have Morisco ancestry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Farroukh View Post
    It seems they have Morisco ancestry
    A morisco origin for E-M81 in Iberia and Europe as whole is not likely as it was already confirmed that its distribution within Iberia does not mirror that of moorish occupation.

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    in the table posted above by rz1706
    we can see
    e-m81 is highest in Brazil in south and southeast areas
    i think it came with Portuguese colonization

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingjohn View Post
    in the table posted above by rz1706
    we can see
    e-m81 is highest in Brazil in south and southeast areas
    i think it came with Portuguese colonization
    there was a lot of italians in these exact areas you mentioned, do italian carry M81?
    also some recent Spanaish along with those italians ^
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