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    Quote Originally Posted by Dewsloth View Post
    Well, the Rome paper uncovered the third "ancient" DF19 and came with a SNP file experts can peek into, so I'm pretty pleased about that...
    I was thinking in terms of really solidifying the ethnic identity of Latins and Etruscans. Not that there wasn't evidence, but I'd be happy to hear about the other samples that weren't in this paper. (apparently?)
    YDNA: R1b-BY50830 Stepney, London, UK George Wood b. 1782 English <-> Bavarian cluster 1100 BC
    m gf YDNA: ?? Gurr, James ~1740, Smarden, Kent, England.
    m gm YDNA: R1b-P311+ Beech, John Richard b. 1780, Lewes, England
    m ggf YDNA R1b-U106 Thomas, Edward b 1854, Sittingbourne, Kent
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-Z17901. Gould, John Somerset England 1800s.
    p ggf YDNA: R1b-L48. Scott, William Hamilton Ireland(?) 1800s

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    Turner: R-U152
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    Welch: early 1800s E-M84 Kent, England.

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    Those couple Mesolithic samples from Italy I hope will be interesting, but I'd really like to have them in 1240k (if that's possible?) to eliminate any potential variables different snp subsets would have...
    But other then that, I'm bored enough to actually have become interested in bronze age happenings...
    Out of curiosity, if possible, which archaeological cultures would the general consensus assign to the origin/formation of various Indo-European language branches? (Anatolian, Tocharian, Baltic, Slavic, Germanic, Celtic, Italic, Greek, Armenian, Indo-Iranian, Indo-Aryan, am I missing any?).
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    So, are we going to get anything new before 2020? Only three weeks left, not much.

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    When can we expect an extensive study on the Pre Pottery Neolithic / Chalcolithic periods of Eastern Turkey, Mesopotamia and Southern Caucasus?

    When can we expect an extensive study(as serious as the studies on the Celts and Italics) on the early elite Etruscans?

    When can we expect this study on the medieval period of Uzbekistan?

    When can we expect the study mentioned in here and here, which has possibly sampled skeletal remains from the Sumerians?

    When can we expect this study which has sampled 400 skeletal remains from the Northern Caucasus region?

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    There are Wartberg samples from recent preprint
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/851188v1.full
    BAM files are available here :
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB35327

    One sample kh150618 is I2c, others are pretty big. I don´t have time look at all of them, maybe open genomes or others can.

    Sardinian aDNA has been published too including J2b samples:
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB35094
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/583104v1

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    Checking here every day for something good, but nothing thus far. Probably January or after will reveal some of the things I am looking for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rms2 View Post
    Checking here every day for something good, but nothing thus far. Probably January or after will reveal some of the things I am looking for.
    I am interested in anything that connects R1b-L51 to the steppe and the early Indo-Europeans. With all the rumors currently circulating, I think there's some big news coming.

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    So, Science of the Human Past YouTube channel just published two videos:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_PuAT9rV9c

    Max Planck Harvard Center for the Archaeoscience of the Ancient Mediterranean Symposium 11/1/2019
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    From Homer to History with MHAAM: Recent Discoveries from Bronze-Age Investigations

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMAEXIbb0Ic

    MHAAM 2019: From Homer to History: Michal Feldman

    First vidoe: This is basically just intro to conference. Nothing new, but some hints. At 17:00 they show a map of places that they are studying(better to start watching at 16:45 to get context), so we may get aDNA from these places. At 20:45 - there is a program of the meeting. They have thus far uploaded only one of them, which is second video, it's about Philistine genomes from Ashkelon, basically retelling of the paper. Some presentations are embargoed, so there won't be videos of them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 167273 View Post
    There are Wartberg samples from recent preprint
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/851188v1.full
    BAM files are available here :
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB35327

    One sample kh150618 is I2c, others are pretty big. I don´t have time look at all of them, maybe open genomes or others can.

    Sardinian aDNA has been published too including J2b samples:
    https://www.ebi.ac.uk/ena/data/view/PRJEB35094
    https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/583104v1
    Thanks 167273 for info.

    I'm trying to download and process the files through the Bam Analysis Kit created by our friend Teepean.

    I'm finding a great difficulty to download the BAM files, because it is very very slow (probably, server are busy).

    In the mean time I wrote an email to Ben Krause, author of the paper, about the Supplementary Tables that are missing in action. I'm waiting for his answer.

    I think that the paper needs a thread on its own, in order to give it more visibility. By that way, more people can reach it and help us with BAM files.

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    Man, there's a lot of truly boring shikaka here in the ancient dna subforum right now.

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